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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
Well isnīt that special!

Was happy to find the game somewhat cheap and figured the sentence:
"This Activation Code entails 30 Days Gametime"

Means I can play 30 days after I register the key..

WRONG!

If you donīt want to submit any personal banking data like me, then you need to buy a GAMETIME CODE on top of your gamebox to get your FREE 30 days.

I EFFIN HOPE!
Didnīt come that far yet in my Cryptic MMO experience.

Maybe anybody else successfully subscribed with game and GTC only?
NOT dumping anymore money in this until I know this works as the following text on the ADD SUBSCRIPTION page confuses the hell out of me.

Quote:
Enter your Game Card key in the box below. Game Card keys are different than your Retail key and can be purchased separately. The below field will only accept Game Card keys. You can add a second retail key to your account after you complete the subscription process.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
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# 2
05-25-2010, 05:41 PM
you can also use a Credit card to complete the process, and all major MMO require you to do this.
Lt. Commander
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# 3
05-25-2010, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumikumi View Post
all major MMO require you to do this.
I really don't get why people come around here and magically expect Cryptic to be different. This has been a standard practice in the industry for over 10 years now, and Cryptic is no exception. Further, if people would actually bother to READ THE FREAKING GAME BOX before they bought, after they bought it, as they opened it, or even after they noticed they didn't magically get automatic access to their promotional time, then they would notice that it says a credit card or other payment source is required to play.
Lt. Commander
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# 4
05-25-2010, 05:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivarST
If you donīt want to submit any personal banking data like me,
Actually it was my bad. Couldnīt read the fine print as I bought the game box online.

It says right on the front of the box in nice fine print.
Quote:
Subscription mandatory.
Crap. Never buy new stuff online or presume something.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
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# 5
05-25-2010, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Eulif_Davis
magically get automatic access to their promotional time, .
When I pay money for the box itīs not promotional anything to me.
Unless you know a way of Crypitc accepting my promotional money. :p

Anyway. Some peeps donīt buy MMOs all the time and magically know how the effed up industry standard works.

So will I be able to successfully complete the subscription process with a GTC then? Or are there more "industry standard" hoops to jump through?
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 6
05-25-2010, 05:55 PM
Well, it's pretty typical for MMOs to want some sort of payment data on file, even if you don't actually use it. That said, I can understand why you wouldn't want your stuff on record with Cryptic.

Here's some solutions:

1. Some folks have reported luck with using test credit card numbers that are available on the web. These are dummy numbers used to test online retail systems. No money will come out from them, obviously, but they will register as valid. I haven't done this myself, but I'm told it works.

2. You can punch in whatever details, and then delete them from your account records afterwards. Note this is separate from cancelling reoccurring subscription billing, so cancelling the sub and deleting the card details are two different steps.

3. Use a game time card, as you've suggested. It does work, but then you have to spend money for an extra month or two, which you might not wish to do.
Lt. Commander
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# 7
05-25-2010, 05:59 PM
OP here is the deal. all MMO ( that I have played, and I have played a lot) take a credit card up front. it does not charge you until after your free time is up. at anytime you can remove your card after you put it in the first time, and lastly all pay to play MMOs do this, so it is not an evil money grab, it is how things are done in the MMOs market.

/end Thread.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 8
05-25-2010, 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acylion
3. Use a game time card, as you've suggested. It does work, but then you have to spend money for an extra month or two, which you might not wish to do.
Ah, thanks for this nicely constructive post to the problem.

So getting a GTC will finally allow me to complete the activation process.

Edit: Tried the test credit card numbers. But they donīt have a proper CVV and itīs almost like credit card fraud to me.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 9
05-25-2010, 06:17 PM
Basically what the system does when you put in credit card details... is automatically sign you up on a reoccuring subscription plan.

This means that someone registering with a credit card is automatically signed up for a subscription as well.

That said, it signs you up for the subscription, it does not actually charge the credit card yet...and will not, until the end of 30 free days.

This is pretty typical for MMOs nowdays. I'm not sure why they do this. Perhaps they think players are too stupid to realise they need to pay month by month, and want to make sure you do. Maybe they want you to commit from the outset. I dunno.

That's just me trying to make sense of the business practice. I strongly disagree with this system, but I can kinda see the twisted logic. Or maybe they're just vampires that want our money. Whatever. Depends on how charitable I'm feeling, I guess. I've never seen anyone official explain why the registration system is designed this way, though there's been plenty of posts on how it works.

But yeah, using a Game Time Card removes any need for a credit card ever. They HAVE to do that, particularly for folks who don't HAVE credit cards; a lot of MMO gamers rely exclusively on store-purchased time cards, and Cryptic knows that.

Hence that's acceptable in lieu of signing up for a subscription plan.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 10
05-25-2010, 06:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivarST
Edit: Tried the test credit card numbers. But they donīt have a proper CVV and itīs almost like credit card fraud to me.

You can't use a fake credit card number. It has to be a real verifiable card.

You will not be billed until your free game time is up. At that time you will be started on a recurring monthly subscription.

You can remove your card information and cancel your account at any time. The account will remain active until currently active game time is expired.

Welcome! I hope you enjoy the game despite your problems.


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