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# 11
06-01-2010, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The.Grand.Nagus View Post
If any Devs are still reading, why do you guys keep making unclear comments about the Romulan faction being added next? For example, in the last Producer's note, Craig said:

"Yes. We’re looking at adding another faction. Which do you want first? Romulan? Cardassian? Borg?"

Why is this even in question? The OFFICIAL poll showed Romulans as the clear winners, and that producer's note came out nearly a month after the poll ended. Now, in this latest interview you guys say:

"Yes, we want to have as many of the factions playable as we possibly can. Its always been our plan to add more and more factions. We've currently got it narrowed down to a few factions we'd like to develop content for first, and Romulans are on that final list."

Why are you guys still making unclear statements about the next faction? Why arent you just saying "yes Romulans ARE next"?
It's up to CBS to give the thumbs up. So Cryptic may not know for sure until much later.

Edit: heh. I almost write "until its too late."
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# 12
06-01-2010, 07:20 PM
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It's up to CBS to give the thumbs up. So Cryptic may not know for sure until much later.
If Romulans werent already in game, that might make sense :p
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# 13
06-01-2010, 09:06 PM
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As usual with there interviews absolutely nothing of interest or that we didn't already know.
What do you expect? Do you think they just did the interview this morning? No, it was probbly done a week or more ago, and just got type up-, formatted, and posted with the newsletter. If you follow the Dev posts on the Dev tracker, that info will always be more current than any recorded or posted/typed interview becuae of the time it takes to type up/do podcast post production, etc.
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# 14
06-01-2010, 09:17 PM
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If that happened, then it would be a blatant disregard of their own player poll and the wishes of the majority of those who voted. Cryptic could never even claim they were listening to the playerbase if they disregarded such clear feedback.
I did not participate in the polls and I believe most gaming population( not subbed or otherwise not using forums as often), is not aware of it or it been a key decision for the 3rd faction.

But if you think about it, the gameplay mechanics for Romulans will be so similar to FED or KDF or "hybrid" of FED+KDF that it actually add little value into the STO universe.
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# 15
06-01-2010, 10:42 PM
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Forum software parsing issues strike again. Thanks guys!
Instead of using that weird software, you know, the one that:

1) Causes all of your links to be broken until you come back and fix them.

2) Causes the dates and times put into thread titles to often be wrong.

3) Doesn't allow you to even see if you're on the CO forums or the STO forums.

Anyway, since it's doing all of that, why don't you just log on to the forums and post normally? It seems like the way you're currently doing it doesn't work. Maybe try doing what does work?
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# 16
06-02-2010, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by The.Grand.Nagus View Post
If any Devs are still reading, why do you guys keep making unclear comments about the Romulan faction being added next? For example, in the last Producer's note, Craig said:

"Yes. We’re looking at adding another faction. Which do you want first? Romulan? Cardassian? Borg?"

Why is this even in question? The OFFICIAL poll showed Romulans as the clear winners, and that producer's note came out nearly a month after the poll ended. Now, in this latest interview you guys say:

"Yes, we want to have as many of the factions playable as we possibly can. Its always been our plan to add more and more factions. We've currently got it narrowed down to a few factions we'd like to develop content for first, and Romulans are on that final list."

Why are you guys still making unclear statements about the next faction? Why arent you just saying "yes Romulans ARE next"?
It's a faaaake!
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# 17
06-02-2010, 03:32 AM
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Enjoy guys! We're very proud of our Herald team. Thank you Cryptic for taking time to participate in the interview.
Ok i seriously need to give "my" [UFP]'s newsteam one great big kick in the butt. :p
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# 18
06-02-2010, 03:33 AM
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The team at the United Federation of Planets featured Star Trek Online in their June newsletter. Check it out here.


Link to the news article.
Umm.. Real quick question... For the interview that was done... Did he/she ever actually watch the ST series?

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Mikester92: Will Federation ships ever have the ability to cloak?

Cryptic: The Federation signed a treaty saying they wouldn't take part in cloaking technology. Sometimes treaties break down, such as the one in our game between the Klingons and the Federation, but in the past you haven't seen Federation ships cloak so I don't know if we'll ever adopt them having cloaking technology in our game.

I realize that there are balancing issues that must be maintained, and I assume that cloaking is something the developers... and hell, even CBS may not want to allow Federation IN GAME to have access to cloaking. But to state that we haven't seen the Feds have access to cloaking technology is plain wrong.

To me, this person being interviewed comes across as either stupid, or dishonest with that response. Did they not know any better? Or are they blowing smoke to maintain the whole "Cryptic responses must be cryptic" crap?

I'm sure the fans of the series that are well aware of the Fed ships that had access to cloaking:


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* U.S.S. Defiant - A special amendment to the Treaty of Algeron allowed the Defiant to be fitted with a Romulan cloaking device. (DS9: "The Search, Part I", "Defiant") The Romulans loaned and allowed the limited supervised use of at least one cloaking device. Operation of the cloaking device was to be limited to the Gamma Quadrant. In return, the Federation would provide the Romulans any and all intelligence collected in the Gamma Quadrant and about the Dominion. Though expressing dissatisfaction with intelligence brought back by the Defiant, the Romulans apparently allowed the cloaking device to remain on the vessel even after they discontinued supervision. (DS9: "The Search, Part I", "Visionary") The Defiant was the only Federation vessel to be seen regularly operating a cloaking device.

Although Captain Benjamin Sisko knew that the cloaking device shouldn't be used in the Alpha Quadrant he cloaked the Defiant in a rescue mission for the Detapa Council in 2372. The Defiant was unable to perform scans for life signs when the cloaking device was in use. (DS9: "The Way of the Warrior")

The cloaking device was again used in the Alpha Quadrant in 2374 to rescue the survivors of the USS Valiant after its destruction deep behind enemy lines. However, since the Romulans had joined the war at this point, it is unknown whether the cloaking device restrictions were still in effect. (DS9: "Valiant")
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* U.S.S. Pegasus - The USS Pegasus (NCC-53847) was an Oberth-class Federation starship in operation during the 24th century. A prototype vessel, the Pegasus served as a testbed vehicle for various technologies, many of which would later be implemented on the Galaxy-class.

In 2358, the Pegasus was commanded by Captain Erik Pressman, and included Ensign William T. Riker, on his first assignment out of the Academy. In that year, the Pegasus was assigned to conduct a test of an interphase cloaking device, in direct violation of the Treaty of Algeron. During the test, an explosion occurred in Main Engineering, resulting in heavy casualties. Several members of the crew, including the first officer and chief engineer, mutinied in an attempt to shut down the illegal test. Pressman, Riker, and seven other crew members fled the ship in an escape pod. Not long after departing, they witnessed a large explosion in space. No wreckage was found, and the vessel was believed to have been destroyed by a warp core breach. In fact, the Pegasus was not destroyed but rather drifted in cloaked form until it re-materialized inside asteroid gamma 601 in the Devolin system.

The survivors stated that the accident in engineering had been responsible for the destruction of the Pegasus, and made no mention of the cloak. The Judge Advocate General's inquiry into the incident concluded that the surviving officers had not been entirely truthful in their recounting of the events, and suggested a further investigation. The follow-up investigation never took place, and the inquiry report was quietly buried by Starfleet Intelligence.

In 2370, the Romulan warbird IRW Terix discovered a piece of wreckage from the Pegasus in the Devolin system. Pressman, now an admiral, dispatched the USS Enterprise-D to recover the vessel first, aiming to reach the cloaking device before the Romulans discovered the Federation's duplicity. The Enterprise entered the asteroid and found the ship, which was partially interphased in solid rock. The illegal events that happened aboard were made public, and Pressman, among others, were court-martialed. The ship itself was not recovered. (TNG: "The Pegasus")
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* U.S.S. Enterprise-D (All Good Things) - (Found under Act VIII) Under attack, the USS Pasteur attempts to escape. Warp power is off-line, so they try to evade the attacks. The impulse drive is fluctuating, and shields are down to 30%. The Pasteur's weapons are no match for the ships, and La Forge can't get warp power. Shields are failing, and Crusher attempts to explain that they are on an errand of mercy. The Klingons don't listen, and Worf signals a surrender. As shields fail, a ship decloaks. It is the Enterprise-D (having not crashed in this timeline). Admiral Riker hails them, and offers to help with the Klingons. He takes out one ship, and draws the fire of the other. The Pasteur's warp core, however, has destabilized, and there is a breach in progress. Riker beams the Pasteur's crew aboard, and the Pasteur is destroyed. A furious Riker then scolds Worf for letting the Pasteur enter hostile territory, and putting their friends in jeopardy. Worf retaliates, saying that if Riker had helped them in the first place, none of this would have happened. Riker orders them out of range of the Pasteur, and then engages the Enterprise out of Klingon space. The cloak is down, so they engage at warp 13 back to Federation Space. Picard is outraged, and demands that they stay, but Crusher administers a sedative to Picard.
Is it really too much to ask that people being interviewed for STO actually know about the Star Trek Universe before making inaccurate statements? If it's due to issues with CBS not allowing it... I'm sure we can handle hearing that... over what was stated there.

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# 19
06-02-2010, 03:42 AM
In general federation ships never cloak, and all of those examples are not really valid.

U.S.S Defiant - only the prototype with a cloak on loan from romulus under special conditions.
U.S.S Pegasus - an illegal experimental ship, a phaser cloak but not actually a cloak by normal definition as rather than just masking itself the phaser cloak actually causes the entire ship to move out of phase with normal space.
U.S.S Enterprise D was from an alternate future, or possibly even one of Q's illusions, thus it means nothing as an example.
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# 20
06-02-2010, 03:53 AM
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In general federation ships never cloak, and all of those examples are not really valid.

U.S.S Defiant - only the prototype with a cloak on loan from romulus under special conditions.
U.S.S Pegasus - an illegal experimental ship, a phaser cloak but not actually a cloak by normal definition as rather than just masking itself the phaser cloak actually causes the entire ship to move out of phase with normal space.
U.S.S Enterprise D was from an alternate future, or possibly even one of Q's illusions, thus it means nothing as an example.
Point being all three of those ships are Federation ships, in canon series, and all three had cloaking (even the Pegasus had "real cloaking" it just had the added bonus of being able to phase too.) Have YOU seen the series? lol

And albeit the Defiant was a special case.. but it was a valid ship, not a one-off episode... not an 'alternate time-line vessel.' It was a regularly show ship piloted by Worf.

And, the Ent-D in that episode was in their attention enough for them to make the Ent-D from All Good Things the referral bonus (sans cloaking, Im sure...)

You can't say "in the past you haven't seen Federation ships cloak" when, obviously.. we have.

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