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# 11
06-05-2010, 11:01 AM
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# 12
06-05-2010, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Xigent
Love,

Xigent
Ok sorry... not a Kirk this time.
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# 13
06-05-2010, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Zorena
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Well that is very true the BOP does rule the day again... the universal stations... means I kicked one tac officer from my bridge. I die now when multiple feds decide there sick of my cloaking - decloaking. I have died once one on one... and I should have cloaked and come back I got pigheaded.
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# 14
06-05-2010, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Xigent
I was the escort player in question....



Third note...

In a pvp match CP...its all about teamwork and knowing your role. As an escort i will always be the crunchiest part of a team, so i usually require alot more heals than most other ships. On the other hand I am the sharp end of the blade when it comes to your teams DPS. If i hadn't died sir my damage would have outsurpassed everyone elses in that map by over double....easily.


Love,

Xigent
Dude,...weve fought numerous times...you are not the end all and be all of escort dps...you were a liability in that game...it dosen't mean you don't do awesome dps but the point is even fully buffed ready for engagement any competent cruiser can nullify your attack...that's my point...why fly a escort that needs taking care of when you can fly a cruiser with 10-20% dps but doesn't need taking care of?
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# 15
06-05-2010, 11:29 AM
OP: You need to understand that the end-of-game damage stats do not tell the whole story - they leave out the extremely important aspect of WHEN that damage takes place. Cruisers are perfectly capable of putting out an unending stream of mid or even high level damage. However, due to their lack of high-ranking tactical bridge officer slots and limited mobility, their ability to produce lethal damage via burst is comparatively limited.

Given a choice between lots of damage that's easily healed, and a similar amount of damage that scores a kill, it should be obvious which one wins games.
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# 16
06-05-2010, 11:32 AM
I don't know how limited it is when you get a 6-beam broadside Assault cruiser with EP2W III and Beam Overload. That's a whole lot of burst. And isn't limited to 45*.

And now that EPS consoles don't fill up everyone's engineering console slots, I've seen some maneuverable cruisers..
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# 17 well
06-05-2010, 11:36 AM
well fallout....i completely agree with you!!

from my experience (tac officer,escort).... after the patch.... the key to win now is to play a cruiser........whether you are playing as tac,science,or eng.

after i realized escorts are now almost useless i decided to test my skills in a cruiser.....well

i can only say: Reverse shield polarity and ramming speed online

simply ramm the other escorts to death and when one escort attacks you, you don't have to be afraid getting killed this is game strategy pure^^

some mates (formerly escort captains or science captains) all play in a cruiser now......some because some science skills were nerfed and many because escorts are ............well.....escort captains know what i mean
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# 18
06-05-2010, 11:40 AM
Im still enjoying my escort but i admit, its ridiculous being top healer on capture and hold maps
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# 19
06-05-2010, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Fallout-Heretic View Post
Dude,...weve fought numerous times...you are not the end all and be all of escort dps...you were a liability in that game...it dosen't mean you don't do awesome dps but the point is even fully buffed ready for engagement any competent cruiser can nullify your attack...that's my point...why fly a escort that needs taking care of when you can fly a cruiser with 10-20% dps but doesn't need taking care of?
I just dont know what to say...actually i do know exactly what to say i just dont want to violate forum TOS. You should really listen to pretty much everyone in this post that is telling you that your point of view is invalid, incorrect, and idiosyncradic.

Love,

Xigent

Edit*

I would also like to note, out of all the other paragraphs in my post....this is the one he decides to criticize? I mean assuming you didnt comment on the rest of my post ill consider that a succession of the information i gave. Given that much....I was top heals and top dmg out of the whole team, and i died 7 times to boot....and you are still trying to argue that escorts are worthless....i just...i mean...are you...? Nevermind i think ive more than made my point here i am going to stop banging my head into a wall trying to reason with you now.
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# 20
06-05-2010, 04:37 PM
Escorts are fine, players just need some time to figure out how to play them effectively again. Clicking 4 buttons and then vaporizing any other ship in seconds didn't exactly promote a high skill level amongst Escort players. They themselves ofcourse thought they were simply superbly skilled. All good pvp-orientated players obviously rolled Escorts

Yes Cruisers are hard as nails now. Newsflash, they are supposed to be. By logical deduction, the slowest ship should be the most powerful as it can never escape nor succesfully chase any of the other shiptypes. So yes, if you want a frontline "duke it out" ship, Cruiser is the way to go. Escorts since the patch need to be played a bit more tactically. Stay away from the initial brawl (yes I know 90% of you escort players tend to mindlessly charge in at the first sight of the enemy...stop it), and pick targets wisely. Do hit and run attacks rather than just staying in the brawl until you or your enemy gets destroyed.

Overall, anyone saying Escorts have become useless hasn't been in an all-Cruiser match yet. It takes forever to kill something, and one or two Escorts on the team would have been a godsend.
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