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# 11
06-09-2010, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wildfyre010 View Post
Because in general, Klingon players are more experienced, more prepared, and better equipped for PvP.
But why am I better?. I am the same person, I don't get a lobotomy before I play as a Federation player.
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# 12
06-09-2010, 01:27 PM
It's not the case of better or worse, just experience vs the lack thereof.

Everyone starts out as fed, not everyone decides to switch to kdf. There's a lot of pve only fed admirals out there that may decide one weekend to pvp. Elite diff pve might prepare you for burst damage, but not the unpredictability of a human opponent.

More experience > better preparation > better BO skills + equipment choices.

All klingon generals have at some point in time experienced the difference between live enemies and computer drones.
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# 13
06-09-2010, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gx4th View Post
It's not the case of better or worse, just experience vs the lack thereof.

Everyone starts out as fed, not everyone decides to switch to kdf. There's a lot of pve only fed admirals out there that may decide one weekend to pvp. Elite diff pve might prepare you for burst damage, but not the unpredictability of a human opponent.

More experience > better preparation > better BO skills + equipment choices.

All klingon generals have at some point in time experienced the difference between live enemies and computer drones.
I agree with what you're saying, although even the least pvp exerienced person will eventually learn the ropes. Only takes a few hundred deaths and you soon ask the peeps that killed you some advice on why they are dying so much.
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# 14
06-09-2010, 01:34 PM
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I agree with what you're saying, although even the least pvp exerienced person will eventually learn the ropes. Only takes a few hundred deaths and you soon ask the peeps that killed you some advice on why they are dying so much.
Exactly, but if someone's in a pug and that guy's still learning the ropes, that's an automatic handicap for that team and that match. His teammates might never see him again, but it'll be further ingrained in their minds the notion that fed players suck and klingons are just better.

If you've got more people than the other faction, there's going to be more people learning (sucking) at any given match.

That said, I think people should just stop taking pvp too seriously. I've been in winning matches and losing matches, either by 1200 to 0 or very very close calls. It's fun either way for me.
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# 15
06-09-2010, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gx4th View Post
That said, I think people should just stop taking pvp too seriously. I've been in winning matches and losing matches, either by 1200 to 0 or very very close calls. It's fun either way for me.
The only matches that annoy me is when i myself do not perform to my expected amount. (Normally whilst having drunk a lot)
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# 16
06-09-2010, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Blenda
I agree with almost all that is in the OP. It would be great if people followed the advice. But they won't. There will still be posts asking what is the best ship, what is the best weapon. Posts moaning that a particular weapon is useless. Or that a particular ability is overpowered and has no counter.

For me working out the best, ship, build and tactics is why I love PvP. I am always trying to get better. If I change something and it doesn't work, I will change it back. And then try something new. I just love it when it finally comes together and I have a build that works for me.

Only thing I would disagree with the OP is that if you mainly PUG then you should test in a PUG. A build might work when you have good support but fail totally when you are on your own.
I think you may have read it wrong i stated...1- First off..... NEVER judge if stuff is working for you if you are in a PUG! Hard to judge if stuff is good when you have others doing stupid stuff. Find a group that is doing good and stick with them for a bit.

There will always be times you have to fight on your own, but. Testing stuff on your own is also something you should do. Being with a good group does help alot though. If you can get in a 1v1 or even a 1v2 testing on your own may be ok. The ppl who run in and try and fight 5 on thier own are just cannon fodder.

Now that being said if you are a tank and want to see how well you will hold up then go ahead. Just remember you may be hurting the team you are on by doing that.
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# 17
06-09-2010, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Badlander View Post
I The ppl who run in and try and fight 5 on thier own are just cannon fodder
Flying a cruiser atm if you know what you're doing and have a decent tank against a pug this isnt always as suicidal as you might think. Gives a chance for the more nervous amoungst your side to grow some and finally attack.
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# 18
06-09-2010, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Blenda
But why am I better?. I am the same person, I don't get a lobotomy before I play as a Federation player.
I get the same feeling at times, but then. when i'm on my klink, I'm supported/surrounded by people mostly achieving the same level of play. When on my fed... I just hope I put up a respectful performance, which usually winds me up with a faster demise next time..

Some ones sig makes me laugh.. and forgive me if I get the name wrong

Door, target him always and everytime. (something like that)
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# 19
06-12-2010, 10:52 AM
I just did a match and asked the guy why when he was in trouble he did not use RSP. He replied what is RSP? OMG, RA lvl and did not know what RSP was!!! I told him what it was and he said he did not even know it was in the game. How in the heck can you be RA 5 and not know what RSP is?

So i started asking him some other questions... all i can say is a ROLF with a sad note. He was tact escort... using beam overload 1 in both spots, no rappid fire AT ALL and to top it off he was all cannons and did not know that beam overload did not work with cannons!

PPL, PLZ PLZ learn to play as you lvl. I don't even know how the heck he made it to RA 5 doing even PVE.

Maybe he was playing on friends, brothers or someone elses account and did not even lvl that char himself.
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# 20
06-12-2010, 11:08 AM
RSP ok, maybe he didn't make the connection to the acronym.. but even when you spelt it out.. LOL
As far as the Beam Overload with all cannons, ROFLLOLOLOL.
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