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# 1 So, what do Klingons get...
06-11-2010, 09:42 AM
Federation gets THIS.

So, what do Klingons get?

The short end of the stick...AGAIN...

I have always thought those who said that Cryptic wants to drive Klingon players out, and have only Federation players, were a little crazy. However, I can no longer state such. The inclusion of this strongly supports their assertion.
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# 2
06-11-2010, 09:59 AM
My take from the other topic:

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Originally Posted by mister_dee
The most simplistic approach would be to add the large pods onto the Negh'ar model and give it a similar super-cannon, only the Disruptor version.
They could even call Negh'Var-X :p
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...p_and_SC-4.jpg

Possibly firing two beams, one from each pod, although the resulting damage could still be the same.
Or if not beams than either large pulses of heavy torpedoes.
Something that looks like this:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...Var_attack.jpg
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# 3
06-11-2010, 10:15 AM
From what I've read Klingon's are only getting a couple PvE missions, Klingon's are getting the short end of the stick as usual.
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# 4
06-11-2010, 10:27 AM
Your surprised?

It always hurts when the rose colored glasses come off. I feel your pain.

I use to think Cryptic cared about the game they put out, I even stopped someone from canceling a sub once with just a positive outlook of the game and what was coming down the line.

The simple truth is I think they are following a dodgy business plan. They seem to be catering to the largest part of the population that's left and the side that they think will draw new subs. They want to hook a player for the short term with fluff to keep the income ball rolling for the other projects. The goal is the cost of the game and two months or so of subs with maybe a few C-Store purchases or about 100$ per player.

Sadly, they seem to not be looking to get the game to keep players just to get them in for a short time for a few bucks and then hopefully at the end of this 3 MMO strategy try to do some population building and make the games stay alive and generating money as they learn from the 3 for maybe an AAA MMORPG a few years down the line.

Maybe the idea of being a company with 3 b-grade MMORPGs in 6 years or so will pay off, maybe it wont. But I really don't think the games going to really get better until they develop and release the 3rd MMO they have in the works. Once it's done they can focus on improving which ever of the 3 MMOs they feel is the most successful with the limited income of the other two and the better income of the 3rd.

Is it ethical? When does business care about ethics these days other then just enough fluff to get by?
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# 5
06-11-2010, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Oraddis
Your surprised?

It always hurts when the rose colored glasses come off. I feel your pain.

I use to think Cryptic cared about the game they put out, I even stopped someone from canceling a sub once with just a positive outlook of the game and what was coming down the line.

The simple truth is I think they are following a dodgy business plan. They seem to be catering to the largest part of the population that's left and the side that they think will draw new subs. They want to hook a player for the short term with fluff to keep the income ball rolling for the other projects. The goal is the cost of the game and two months or so of subs with maybe a few C-Store purchases or about 100$ per player.

Sadly, they seem to not be looking to get the game to keep players just to get them in for a short time for a few bucks and then hopefully at the end of this 3 MMO strategy try to do some population building and make the games stay alive and generating money as they learn from the 3 for maybe an AAA MMORPG a few years down the line.

Maybe the idea of being a company with 3 b-grade MMORPGs in 6 years or so will pay off, maybe it wont. But I really don't think the games going to really get better until they develop and release the 3rd MMO they have in the works. Once it's done they can focus on improving which ever of the 3 MMOs they feel is the most successful with the limited income of the other two and the better income of the 3rd.

Is it ethical? When does business care about ethics these days other then just enough fluff to get by?
I'm not surprised, just disappointed.

Yeah, I know they are catering to the larger player base. A possibly smarter business model would be to diversify content to increase the total player base. However, I debate that STO is B-Grade. I think it is now C-Grade, rapidly heading towards F.
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# 6
06-11-2010, 11:09 AM
I saw the Cryptic Q&A and was so disappointed I couldnt even bring myself to complain.
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# 7
06-11-2010, 12:05 PM
Signed unconditionally.

Cryptics work is disappointing.
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# 8
06-11-2010, 12:08 PM
Possibly we should get the "klang" BoP? You can't tell me they made just one prototype.
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# 9
06-11-2010, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cocoa-jin View Post
I saw the Cryptic Q&A and was so disappointed I couldnt even bring myself to complain.
Same here. I think I'm just resigned to the fact that we'll always get less than the Feds.

If I didn't have the lifetime sub, I wonder if I'd have canceled by now. I honestly can't say. I do know that I'm generally just logging on long enough to do the daily missions. In fact, I probably spend more time here on the forum than I do ingame.

Cryptic, I implore you, give us a dev of our own, if only for an hour or two per day, someone to represent the Klingon side of things. Someone to post here regularly about Klingon issues. Even if he has nothing to report, and says that, the attention would help me feel less neglected.

I think the problem is that Cryptic considers us players first, not Fed players or Klingon players, where most of us gravitate towards one or the other. I think they're possibly scratching their heads saying, "but we post all the time", not realizing that we (Klingons) don't recognize a post about Fed issues as addressing our concerns at all.

I really don't think they're ignoring us on purpose, but somebody up there needs to knock a few heads together and let them know. Stormy, if you're listening, pass on that we could really use some words of encouragement here, please.
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# 10
06-11-2010, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kinjiru View Post
Same here. I think I'm just resigned to the fact that we'll always get less than the Feds.

If I didn't have the lifetime sub, I wonder if I'd have canceled by now. I honestly can't say. I do know that I'm generally just logging on long enough to do the daily missions. In fact, I probably spend more time here on the forum than I do ingame.

Cryptic, I implore you, give us a dev of our own, if only for an hour or two per day, someone to represent the Klingon side of things. Someone to post here regularly about Klingon issues. Even if he has nothing to report, and says that, the attention would help me feel less neglected.

I think the problem is that Cryptic considers us players first, not Fed players or Klingon players, where most of us gravitate towards one or the other. I think they're possibly scratching their heads saying, "but we post all the time", not realizing that we (Klingons) don't recognize a post about Fed issues as addressing our concerns at all.

I really don't think they're ignoring us on purpose, but somebody up there needs to knock a few heads together and let them know. Stormy, if you're listening, pass on that we could really use some words of encouragement here, please.
Fed content reports might as well be no report for me. Everytime I see them get the world I get a little sick to the stomach...I feel more and more second class...I begin to resent both the Fed players who get it all and still want what we have or argue to remove what little we have...I begin to resent the Devs who seem to have written us off as expendable, but arent man enough to just come out in say it.

My feelings toward the Devs is more and more like that of a child toward their abusive parent...hate my existance in game, but I cant ring myself to leave because its all I have(for a Star Trek experience)...hope for the better lets me endure one more disappointment. I cant bring myself to leave, but I hope for the day that I do...it would be liberating.
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