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# 1411
08-30-2011, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RAJ_2011
are you sure, i thought that one used in nemesis was the one he redesigned? I hope there is a picture of this some where, i really want to know what the sovy should of looked liked.
i found this, i think the bottom picture is what the E is supposed to look like at the end of nemesis, the sovy refit.

http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2010/...1701-e/#000015

http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2010/...final-e-small/

Maybe the developers could make this sovy refit and add it into the game.
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# 1412
08-30-2011, 02:20 PM
CapnLogan is already aware of the different coloured bridge (I saw another thread about it and saw his reply).
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# 1413
08-30-2011, 02:29 PM
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CapnLogan is already aware of the different coloured bridge (I saw another thread about it and saw his reply).
Which post are you replying to?

And just to continue from my last post, does any have a exteneded version of nemesis which features the true ending of the movie which we see the beloved enterprise e leave space dock and fly away, if it does it the true refit version? What i found out it the enterprise e had a small refit done as it is mentioned it had before nemesis and after insurrection but a major refit was done which would have introduce the true design of the sovereign class orignally designed by john eaves as stated be him that he manage to redesign it.

Qutoed from memory alpha: "According to John Eaves, the Enterprise-E was to have been retrofit at the end of Star Trek Nemesis but due to budgetary reasons and script changes the Enterprise was only seen being repaired in dry dock. "For the end of the film the badly destroyed and damaged E is being rebuilt in space-dock. This is where the opportunity was given to really fix all the lines and flow to match the roots of where the original drawing had left off. Not too often does one gets the chance to rework a beloved piece of art, and I was so happy to get the chance regardless of how minor the changes were."

"The drawings were done and to be seen as the E leaves the space-dock at the end of Nemesis, with what we were hoping to get approval on being the new aztec patterned paint job, that was so prominent with all the preceding variations of the Enterprise. As production went on, it was becoming clear that Nemesis was going to be the last of the TNG movies and thus, the E would fly no more. Very sad thoughts, and I was so hoping to at least to get to see that final version fly off into space… Budget and script changes kept the E in the bay under repair so all that exists of the big finish only exists on paper as a bunch of plans"

http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2010/...1701-e/#000015

http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2010/...final-e-small/

i do apologise for this obsession, I really would like to know and see if the "final phase refit" actual exisit other than the link above.
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# 1414
08-30-2011, 02:36 PM
It is very much worth mentioning, for those using head-on screenshots as a critical point of reference, that a screenshot from the bow is drastically different from an orthographic head-on.

Why?

Lens mechanics with cameras, both real and CGI.

The length of the lens plays a major part in perspective. A short lens (in abstract terms, a camera sitting directly in front of you) is going to make everything close to the camera too large, and everything in the distance smaller.

A long lens (Again, in abstract terms, a camera sitting a long way from you) will 'flatten' everything so depth of perspective is crushed. This is why in some head-on shots, the Sovereign has a very shallow engineering hull while in others it has an almost Excelsior-like 'plunge' that is quite deep.

An orthographic plan of the bow will typically be rendered with a long lens from great distance, as it removes all perspective distortions and leaves nothing more than 'true' lines of geometry, which are essential when constructing the profile of the vessel in 3D space.

With this in mind, remember that this shot:



...Is far more accurate than this one



...Even though that second shot looks more 'natural' that is what you would expect to see in the 'real world'.
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# 1415
08-31-2011, 06:25 AM
I'll ask this question again as i have asked this more the once in the past with no one giving me a answer other then moving on to another topic. rather have something said then nothing.

Did John eaves, creator of the sovereign class, make the final phase refit? i know thee is a blueprint around but is the anything else?

Suricata might know this is he or she is around.
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# 1416
08-31-2011, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RAJ_2011
I'll ask this question again as i have asked this more the once in the past with no one giving me a answer other then moving on to another topic. rather have something said then nothing.

Did John eaves, creator of the sovereign class, make the final phase refit? i know thee is a blueprint around but is the anything else?

Suricata might know this is he or she is around.
He is around, and no, the refit model was never made, he just drew up the blueprints of it. The mian difference was the secondary hull, which was made to look more like the original concepts of the Enterprise-E. I'd absolutly love to see it in game as a refot version of the Soveriegn, just like I'd loved to see the NX class refit by Doug Drexler as well :-)
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# 1417
08-31-2011, 08:40 AM
Angel, another shot for your OP. Turns out the Defiant had a mood light just under the warhead pod / nav deflector. Also took a cleaner shot of the ship's dorsal light.



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# 1418
08-31-2011, 09:00 AM
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He is around, and no, the refit model was never made, he just drew up the blueprints of it. The mian difference was the secondary hull, which was made to look more like the original concepts of the Enterprise-E. I'd absolutly love to see it in game as a refot version of the Soveriegn, just like I'd loved to see the NX class refit by Doug Drexler as well :-)
DEVS ARE YOU READING THIS PUT THE "FINAL PHASE SOVEREIGN REFIT" INTO STO AS EITHER A SKIN OR NEW SHIP PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! which nx class refit by droug D? Do you mean there is a refit of the nx class out there!?


Sprint01 doesn't the defints in game have that light underneath which looks great, its one of the reasons why i like the defiant.
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# 1419
08-31-2011, 09:09 AM
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Sprint01 doesn't the defints in game have that light underneath which looks great, its one of the reasons why i like the defiant.
Afraid not, the Tactical Escort skins are bland and darkened. They really need some sort of accent lighting. Every single other Starfleet ship in the game has accent lighting, except for the Tactical Escorts.




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# 1420
08-31-2011, 09:09 AM
And then there is the Defiant's hull. Sorry, limited to 4 pics per post.


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