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# 11
06-18-2010, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by danfiveten View Post
im sorry but NO. what did cryptic say about not ading things that would affect game play ? adding the gx to the c store is a game changing element, so sorry cryptic if you do you lie about even more things. Putting the borg bo was pushing the envelope a lil bit.
As you mentioned the Borg BO is there already.

Plus, whats to prevent them putting a 'ship costume' version in that includes none of the different functionalities the referral one has?
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# 12
06-18-2010, 08:07 PM
^ that i have no issue with, just a cotume would be fine with me without the cloak and cannon. That would be cool so people could at least have the skin.
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# 13
06-18-2010, 08:14 PM
Something that strikes me as interesting is this idea of the Federation having a cloak-able ship.

Now that they have one, I feel its only a matter of time before more become available in some way shape or form.
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# 14
06-18-2010, 08:19 PM
Well, if it's true that it would still be available to people who referred friends, I think it putting it in would be a smart move.

If it's no longer tied to the refer-a-friend program, then I hope that Cryptic would wait a while before making it available.
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# 15
06-18-2010, 08:26 PM
Thing is i would like to see it remain the only ship that can cloak on fed side EVER because then it will remain to a limited amount and not very game changing. Feds should not have any other kind of cloak.
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# 16
06-19-2010, 02:03 AM
Yes it should be added.
Then a patch should come out with countermeasures against it.
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# 17
06-19-2010, 02:34 AM
This is a job for yet another long stream of cliches.

When in Rome... The genie's out of the bottle. The damage to my trust is done. I say all exclusives should now be on the C-Store. In the end it's only fair. So where's my Red Matter Capacitor, and Liberated Borg?
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# 18
06-19-2010, 02:41 AM
I voted yes, but the more i think about it, the more i say no. The reason is that the ship has unique abilities, which are (not debatable) game effecting. I don't have 5 friends to refer. I have 2 that i've refered that started and bought lifetimes when the game began. Now I'm SOL, but thats fine. its better that cryptic sticks to what they said ("No game effecting items in the C-Store") then to make me happy. Because integrity is worth more in my book.

All i'm seeing from ryptic atm is that they'll just roll over for the whiners. I'm not impressed with their conduct and will seriously debate whether or not to throw any more money at this game. The C-store is a joke. i thought it would be interesting, but its not. They said many of the items would be able to be found in-game for free, and they aren't.

Maybe Nagus's next poll should be, "Should the C-Store be removed'. Maybe I'll start it myself when i get a chance, and some sleep.
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# 19
06-19-2010, 03:00 AM
I figure this debate will go back and forth and back and forth. So here is my lot.

When this item was first announced there was an outpouring of grief. It should have been on the c-store at the beginning. Yes, using it for the RAF was a smart move on Cryptic's part but now I think it is time it goes on the c-store.

I personally think is should be a part of season 2 and here is why. Season 2 is a make it or break it for some players and anything that stacks the game for the make it part helps the game overall. While it might be beneficial to get 5 players to sub for a month but it would be better to have 10 subs stay. (Not that anyone will quit just because they don't get the Gal X but it might smooth out some of the rough edges).

As far as the Gal X being a problem to be honest, after the fad wore off you wouldn't see it any more than any other ship type. Plus there are new ship types coming so once the Gal X stops being the flavor of the month it will be back to normal. So in essence we would have a week or so with a fleet of Gal X and Fed cloaking and decloaking in pvp. Well to be honest, they would suddenly find out that the cloak isn't all that and probably would go back to what they were playing in the first place.

If Cryptic decides they aren't going to put it on the c-store by Season 2 I think the best thing they can do is to say something along the lines of "You won't see the Gal X on the c-store for X number of months.) One it will stop a lot of the threads asking about it and two it will give people a reason to continue to invest in the RAF. Otherwise people will hold off just waiting for it to be on the c-store and not investing in the RAF thereby defeating the purpose of this carrot on a stick.

Overall, I would say Cryptic needs to look at Season 2 as more than a content update and more of a way to general some needed goodwill. No matter what side of the fence you (general) have been on in all the issues I think there can be no doubt that good will would do Cryptic and STO and the community some good. It isn't about so much of Cryptic using the Gal X to throw us a bone but more that they could use the effort they used to make it into helping the game as a whole. They said they wanted to take the middle ground and help out the game and folks who asked for the other stuff well this is the big puppy.

More people would care, I imagine about the Gal X then the Red Matter Cap or some turret or what have you.
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# 20
06-19-2010, 03:07 AM
yes it should be but i would wait a long time to do it.

personally though i think a long term veteran reward would be a more ideal solution, like after a couple of years.
or to get complicated a veteran reward that unlocks the c-store item after 2 years.

if people have for their own reasons decided to buy 5 copies and spend all that money they still get the ship for a couple of years before anybody else.

and the people that referred friends will have gotten the ship for free, as the program was intended.
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