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# 11
07-11-2010, 09:08 AM
Marks of honor are the only reason I PvP.

Between the Cloak/ Carrier Spam Klingons and the "Oh look I have an aimable Black Hole" Science ships I don't see the point of PvP.

If they could make it more like the TV show and movies, it would revitalize PvP.

Limit the number of ships to 3 per side, get rid of the Science ships (what did any Science officer EVER do in any of the series that was "Tactical?") and let the Klingon players go back to Eve and make a real Game AI for NPC Klingons.

Unless any of this is done we will be playing WoW, in space.
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# 12
07-11-2010, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Thlaylie View Post
Marks of honor are the only reason I PvP.

Between the Cloak/ Carrier Spam Klingons and the "Oh look I have an aimable Black Hole" Science ships I don't see the point of PvP.

If they could make it more like the TV show and movies, it would revitalize PvP.

Limit the number of ships to 3 per side, get rid of the Science ships (what did any Science officer EVER do in any of the series that was "Tactical?") and let the Klingon players go back to Eve and make a real Game AI for NPC Klingons.

Unless any of this is done we will be playing WoW, in space.
Sci Ships not are not Cannon??? ok
I'm sure the enterprise never had a tractor beam... The NX Enterprise never polarized its hull.
Tachyon beams where not in ST Insurection, destroying shields.
Gravity wells and Tykens Rifts never played a role in multiple episodes.
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# 13
07-11-2010, 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thlaylie View Post
Marks of honor are the only reason I PvP.

Between the Cloak/ Carrier Spam Klingons and the "Oh look I have an aimable Black Hole" Science ships I don't see the point of PvP.

If they could make it more like the TV show and movies, it would revitalize PvP.

Limit the number of ships to 3 per side, get rid of the Science ships (what did any Science officer EVER do in any of the series that was "Tactical?") and let the Klingon players go back to Eve and make a real Game AI for NPC Klingons.

Unless any of this is done we will be playing WoW, in space.
N1 best post ever,
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# 14
07-11-2010, 11:00 AM
If all they could do was tractor beams and other canon powers that would be fine, but as the "Mage" of STO they control aimable Tykens Rifts.

They never controlled Tykens Rifts in the show, just encountered them.

I don't remember them using Viral Matrix or SNB in the show either.
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# 15
07-11-2010, 11:16 AM
Never had a problem against any of those science skills *shrug* not sure what you're doing wrong so I can't help you.
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# 16
07-11-2010, 11:23 AM
I'm flying a Fleet Escort that Cryptic nerfed the shields on in Pugs and becoming engulfed in Fedamoebas consisting of multiple Sci ships while I am trying to finish off an enemy.

So if someone "casts" Tykens Rift directly on you, what "power" do you use to counteract that?
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# 17
07-11-2010, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Thlaylie View Post
I'm flying a Fleet Escort that Cryptic nerfed the shields on in Pugs and becoming engulfed in Fedamoebas consisting of multiple Sci ships while I am trying to finish off an enemy.

So if someone "casts" Tykens Rift directly on you, what "power" do you use to counteract that?
Um...
Evasive
Engine Bat
Change your power setting to Engines and Move away from it.
Emergency power to Engines/Shields/weapons
Emergency power transfer for an eng captain

Those are some of the counters to a Tykens.
Tykens is not the most deadly skill in the game by any means.

And on the cannon note... your right they never shot them in the shows. However there was a scientist researching them, it stands to reason they could have been weaponized at this point in history.

Which reminds me in keeping with Cannon, Cryptic I want a Genesis Device please.
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# 18
07-11-2010, 12:24 PM
"Which reminds me in keeping with Cannon, Cryptic I want a Genesis Device please."

This is my point entirely.

If we have to have Sci ships controlling Rifts then we need to have Cruisers with genesis torpedoes and Escorts with time travel....

or

We could get rid of mages entirely and try to stick to some canon.
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# 19
07-11-2010, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Thlaylie View Post
We could get rid of mages entirely and try to stick to some canon.
Canon in a videogame... Ya that doesn't really work.

After all;
  • Canon is two torps and you're dead.
  • Canon is one phaser blast and you're dead.
  • Canon is the Borg ACTUALLY assimilating you instead of a weak dot.
  • Canon is permanent death.
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# 20
07-11-2010, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Husanak View Post
Um...
Evasive
Engine Bat
Change your power setting to Engines and Move away from it.
Emergency power to Engines/Shields/weapons
You usually only need one of these Thlaylie. Tyken's Rift is soooo easy to get away from. Even if they put a Gravity Well on top of it.
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