Lt. Commander
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# 21
07-20-2010, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by phlyto View Post
I went back over the last 8 pages. These are the dates of dev posts on those pages. All dates are 2010.

20 July. 1 July. 22 June. 29 April x2. 20 April. 31 March.

It only takes a few minutes to skim the forums. If they need to "designate" a developer to do that, then perhaps they should. As I said earlier, communication is key. Its the reason they have "Community Managers" employed. It's why Stormy is here.
Yeah, and you'll notice what kind of reception he's been getting for even showing his face in some of these threads. Everywhere I turn lately it sounds like somebody poked a monkey with a hot stick.

Yeeek yeeek yeeek! Cryptic's evil and greedy and out to screw us over! Yeeek yeeek yeeek! We don't have enough toys! We want them yesterday! Yeeek yeeek yeeek!

The freaking game is not even six months old yet, this is not freaking Bioware or WoW that can run huge development teams! If you don't think the devs pay any attention LOOK AT THE FREAKING DEV TRACKER! They are here, they are trying to do right by us as well as their company but when the Signal-to-QQ ratio so freaking low is it any wonder they don't spend more time around here?!
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# 22
07-20-2010, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaput View Post
Oddly enough they don't need to post to have read everything.

Maybe the Cryptic community folks need to start a Blizzard style approach and constantly remind people not to fish/beg/plead for dev posts and that they do actually read stuff without replying to everything >.>
In this case, they really do. It's the silence that is creating the bulk of the disgruntled players. This isn't World of ******** where there's already boatloads of content, or well publicized, highly polished, expansions known to be looming on the horizon.
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# 23
07-20-2010, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockup View Post
If you don't think the devs pay any attention LOOK AT THE FREAKING DEV TRACKER!
The (freaking) DEV Tracker is why you're here. You may notice it doesn't tell you what the Dev's read and don't reply It also doesn't offer feed back from them on things they read, but, don't reply. Good suggestion, though.
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# 24
07-20-2010, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by phlyto View Post
The (freaking) DEV Tracker is why you're here. You may notice it doesn't tell you what the Dev's read and don't reply It also doesn't offer feed back from them on things they read, but, don't reply. Good suggestion, though.
You're darned right. When I want to know what the devs are talking about today, I check the tracker. When I want to know what my fellow players are thinking, and generally feeling masochistic, I check the feedback and discussion threads. And I tell you, a lot of the people around here couldn't form a rational discussion if their lives depended on it: the first thing that they don't like crops up, whether its not enough toys in the update or they don't like the latest knick-knack in the C-Store, the screaming starts and it only gets worse if the devs don't hop at the first hint of it. They get called greedy, lazy, accused of intentionally trying to wreck the game, you name it. Heaven forbid that they should try to make some sense of the whole mess before diving in or that some poor soul doesn't have the absolute correct and up-to-date information right then and there. Some of these threads have gone over a hundred pages worth of screaming, vitriolic accusations in a week's time. When you have something like that to deal with you don't -get- 'We don't like this pricing, please reconsider it because at this price point your product holds no interest for me', what they hear is 'WAAAAAAAAHHHHH*YOUSUCK*WAAAAAAAHHHH*MAKEITCOSTLES S*WEHATEYOU!' In an environment like that its no wonder they keep their trap shut.
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# 25
07-20-2010, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by StormShade
There's no need to abandon this forum, and we are listening to your feedback.

It is going to take time to correct the current faction imbalance, and it's something we're actively working on.

Klingons are getting a number of updates this Season to help begin to rectify this balance issue.

You are getting more updated costume options than the Federation is, and you are getting more new episodes than Federation Players are.

Yes, the Federation is getting the Diplomatic Corps, however, you are getting several new episodes strung across several levels, as well as access to any new "standard" PvE content being introduced. We know that this doesn't "fix" anything. However, it is a start.

Thanks,

Stormshade
We know you are actively working on the imbalance issues, since we are getting some love. But honestly how much love does the Federation get again? You can't fix an imbalance by adding more content to the side that already is way ahead than the amount of content that the side gets that is way behind.

We are getting the updated costume options because Feds have them already. It's more like a fashion show than an online game on Earth Space Dock.

What do the several new episodes strung over several levels actually do for the Klingons that are here since release and have waited patiently, but getting screwed again? What we could use are refits like the Federation gets. Where are our refits? We get one Carrier compared to how many new Federation ships and refits?

I can live with the Diplomatic Corps for feds. However, the fact that it enables them to snatch the very few Bridge Officers we Klingons can actually purchase from the Exchange doesn't go well with me.
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# 26
07-20-2010, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by StormShade
There's no need to abandon this forum, and we are listening to your feedback.

It is going to take time to correct the current faction imbalance, and it's something we're actively working on.
[...snip]
Honestly I don't think the title is supposed to be taken seriously, those of us that actively post are still doing so here and in the Klingon ships section. I believe this thread is more of a call to action to bring our concerns to other more frequented parts of the forum.

Aside from that since 1.2 launched season 2 has been hailed as The Klingon patch (the 45 day patch before it did in a way deliver what we were told it would so I actually thank the team for their efforts then) nut now that we actually get a look at season 2, admittedly only its not yet complete tribble build we see that the federation are getting just as much if not only slightly less than the Klingon faction. Likely we just got our hopes up too high but for a patch that has been said to be focused on Klingons by the team it does seem a bit of a let down.
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# 27
07-20-2010, 11:47 PM
It's amusing to me that a thread calling for the abandonment of this forum is the only one that gets a post from a Dev. Only after the Klingon populace has taken to the forums in force with their disenchantment and frustration about the game...

Not to mention the post itself is very vacant and rehashed; usual "Keep on posting your stuff here, we look at it." Nothing of value or insight as to what we should expect in the future, or what might change. More "wait and see" like it's been again and again.

I'm rather tired of waiting, I probably won't be playing my Klingon much anymore, if at all. Not that there's anything to do except fly around Kerrat boredly and wait for a PVP match to pop. That painfully one-dimensional and utterly lacking gameplay doesn't appeal to me; I can count on the Federation to receive plenty of love every patch. So I'm going to put my bets on Starfleet side and continue to have my main there.

Abandon the forum, sure. I've pretty much not posted here for a very long time because what's the point? So I'll take it a step further and abandon the faction. Maybe once all the Klingons are gone, something will get done. Either some equality or the final deathknell.
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# 28
07-20-2010, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SojournerX
This is the same sort of treatment (or lack therof) that gets people all bent out of shape in the Tech/Help forums. There is virtually no communication coming from Crytic on much of anything at all. People are paying for this product/service and when it appears that the powers that be couldn't even be bothered to post a message to acknowledge an issue, it comes as no surprise that people are cancelling their subscriptions (of which the resulting player vacuum is becoming more and more obvious).

Whatever happened to all that talk on Cryptic's end of "transparency"? If Feedback forums are to be virtually ignored by Cryptic devs, why have them? The lack of Cryptic's "responsive voice" shows a lack or concern for, even lack of respect of, it's subscribing customer base.

Yes, if a thread gets out of hand, close it/deal with it. Yes, Stormshade did in fact post an "acknowledgement" of this this issue and thread. The thing is, if Cryptic did that more often, there wouldn't be half the Cryptic-flaming and customer UNsatisfaction that has become so prevalent.

"No communication from Cryptic aboout anything at all..", eh. Have youbothered to look at the Dev Tracker lately? If you had, you would have seen the STO Devs posts and communication on:

Tribble patch notes for 7/20/10 (link)

A Dev posting screenshots of a fix to the Ablative Armor textures on various ship model (based on player feedback) (link)

A list of player reported bugs on Tribble, and the level of Priority they've been assigned (link)

Response to feedback on the ship interiors on Tribble (link)

Response to the issues with the Kerat System PvP mission

Response to feedback regardy the new Trophies on Tribble (link)

A Dev response to a player suggestion for fixing the look of the Starship interior corridors on Tribble (link)

Another recent Engineering Report on 7/16/10 (link)

And there was quite a buit more that I skipped over; but I think the point is made and it's quite clear the STO Dev team is more communicative an up front than any Dev team from any other released MMO to date.

Hyperbole certainly doesn't help the point you're trying to makr imo.
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# 29
07-20-2010, 11:57 PM
for one the devs posting here do have other responsibilities

i know from experience sometimes it not always easy to find time to send e-mails and things from having a very busy job.

but also these forums are for us to discuss things and the devs to read the feedback and to see the arguments to back and forth. these forums are not a question and answer session. there not here to post on every thread or every page. im sure they deliberately leave threads alone to see what we say and how we say it

they post a huge amount on these forums and im grateful, but it seems the more they post the more people want them to post even more.

The OP also seams to have taken the assumption that lack of response means not being heard. the devs have said there is an imbalance to the game and season 2 helps and they continue to look at the issue. an issue that these forums cant even agree on what is the best way to go forward.
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# 30
07-21-2010, 01:42 AM
for better pvp klingons listen up make a new fed toon and fight the new FED klingons that join cause they think klingons are so OP with their cloak and such then they gonna go back thinking feds are op again after flooding forums with nerf fed calls...
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