Its a fine line, add too many restrictions and the fleet becomes a pyramid scheme, too few and you're robbed blind.

Welcome everyone with open arms and promotions and you have a varied fleet, but more chance to be robbed. Too paranoid, and the leadership becomes the elect few and promotions being stalled by absentee leadership that has quit the game.


The worst case scenario, the fleet bank allows deposits, but there's no one left playing with rank to withdraw anything.

The best answer is for ONLY fleet admin or leaders to have access to remove fleet stuff from the vault. ANYone can contribute... but ONLY one or two should have access to withdraw.

What we need is some other settings for the fleet banks.

Instead of setting the withdrawal limit per tab it should be for the entire bank.
But as I've written in an other post, moving an item in the bank registers as a withdrawal.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...d.php?t=168831

Which makes it possible to spam the log with false withdrawals.

It's also not possible to copy the logs and paste in to text files, which is needed.

We also need the function that exists in Champions Online where you can drag an item from one of your bags and drop it on an other and the item moves there. We need that function in the fleet banks.

Because why should I have to withdraw something that someone put in the wrong bank tab and then deposit it in the right one, adding more work on our backs, not forgetting the logs. When an easy drag and drop on the correct tab should be enough.

funny. i give you an answer in a dr. phil sort of way and he gives it to you in an oprah sort of way and you thank him....lmao.

nothing further......

This ranks right above mandatory ec credit Donations to the fleet bank as "Reasons to Quit a Fleet"

If everyone contributes but only a few can reap the befits of it, why should I bother? In that case it will come down to whoever kisses the backside of the leader the most, gets the "gifts." And what happens when one or two of the withdrawlers quits the fleet, or STO? Your pyramid-scheme fleet becomes, a burial tomb of EC and blue gear.

Yes there needs to be control, and a chain of command, but a dictatorship of resources in not how a good organization functions

Ok I agree in theory with not posting names, but if the log shows definite "nastiness" ie take a ton of stuff and credits and then immediately quit the Fleet that right there needs to be addressed.
My Fleet has been at a standstill since our Fleet leaders appear to have decided not to play anymore. As the next rank down I have been "in charge". However due to the permissions set up by the leaders that we cant demote or promote up to our own rank when a same ranked member decided to be a "robber" we couldnt stop him. Also we cant do much other than "say " we are in charge. Is there a way to petition somehow to turn the Fleet over to an active member? I dont wanna steal the Fleet -- in practice it's already mine -- but I just wanna be able to actually run it till the leaders come back. No kicking anyone or demoting or anything -- just wanna like access the Fleet email lol. As far as what was taken oh well I just wanna have the ability to change the permissions so it doesnt happen again. Also starting a new Fleet isnt what I want either our bank is fully tabbed and I'd really like to keep that and the Fleet intact. Any ideas sugestions other than just totally giving up?

I agree with StormShade completely...as a legal professional, I can only imagine the lawsuits for defamation if people in real life arbitrarily posted peoples names on lists accusing them of unproven offences. The potential damage to the community as a whole is far greater than the benefit it would bring to fleets.

The fleet I am a part of has been around for over 2 years (formed when STO was first announced) and we have over 400 members...we have not had a single incident of fleet bank theft.

My advice to fleets...figure out a reasonable and controlled method of fleet bank deposits and withdrawls. If you are being robbed because you are giving access to people whom you obviously don't know at all, it is your own fault, not Cryptics. Do some business analysis and create new banking procedures. It is as simple as that.