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# 141
07-30-2010, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cpt.William2 View Post
Applying the same concept too two groups of people with almost the same problem is just so unreasonable.

By the way, where is Mr. Stahl's explanation of their contradictory policy?
You're right. Let's take the money away from the Galaxy X people.

As to their contradictory policy, it has come up a number of times. A quick search netted this post:

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Originally Posted by dstahl
Back then I made a point that the Galaxy X is a type of ship that we would be making more of as part of Season 2. There will be other T5 ships available in game (not for cryptic points) that you'll be able to pick up and they will offer unique advantages/disadvantages just like the Galaxy X.

The reasoning behing the C-Store team putting the Galaxy X up for CP is the same reason that the pre-order items are available - people have asked for an easier way to get them (because getting 5 friends to subscribe to any game is pretty difficult I have to agree).

My expectation would be that those picking up the ship this weekend would be doing so because they really like the idea of flying around in one not because it is OP or game breaking. I think the other T5 ships coming in Season 2 will be just as viable, and in some cases better than the Galaxy X.
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# 142
07-30-2010, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LotD
You're right. Let's take the money away from the Galaxy X people.

As to their contradictory policy, it has come up a number of times. A quick search netted this post:
That doesn't answer the question of how their policy has changed. They have never addressed the issue, they ignore it. An absense of an actual response does not always indicate an answer.


It does however indicate how they view "equal"

All 3 Ships have 1 unique power (Ablative Hull, Cloak, Saucer Sep)


The C-Store Gal-X has 2 (Cloak AND Phaser Lance)
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# 143
07-30-2010, 09:02 PM
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That doesn't answer the question of how their policy has changed. They have never addressed the issue, they ignore it. An absense of an actual response does not always indicate an answer.


It does however indicate how they view "equal"

All 3 Ships have 1 unique power (Ablative Hull, Cloak, Saucer Sep)


The C-Store Gal-X has 2 (Cloak AND Phaser Lance)
I gave you two Dev responses, one of which directly addresses the issue. Their answers are, essentially, "our policy has not changed" and "exclusive did not mean forever, so we will not be compensating you."

It seems like you are unwilling to accept anything other than a direct answer to you specifically because they've made it abundantly clear what their position is through conversations with other people who raised these issues long before you made this thread.
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# 144
07-30-2010, 10:09 PM
how about this, the "Exclusive" is that you got your bonuses for free with the game purchase, everyone who didn't had to pay extra to buy them in the C-Store. So stop whining and be glad you didn't have to pay extra for that stuff. I bought the DDE and the CE so I could get all that cool bonus stuff from the start, I knew full well that it might end up as microtransaction stuff later, and I didn't care, all that matters is I got that stuff way before the other people did.
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# 145
07-30-2010, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cpt.William2 View Post
I have tried to do this through contact with Cryptic, but unfortunately, they have no customer support and do not respond to any of my messages. And according to one of the Devs, this is where I should put it.
I suggest you stop wasting your time with the forums, PM's to Dev's, Marketing and GM's and do a Consumerist model and go directly to executive management with a letter and a phone call requesting a meeting to discuss your issue.

Hindol Datta, Chief Financial Officer - Link: Executive Team Page on Cryptic.com - Main Cryptic Telephone +! 408-399-1969
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# 146
07-31-2010, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LotD
I gave you two Dev responses, one of which directly addresses the issue. Their answers are, essentially, "our policy has not changed" and "exclusive did not mean forever, so we will not be compensating you."

It seems like you are unwilling to accept anything other than a direct answer to you specifically because they've made it abundantly clear what their position is through conversations with other people who raised these issues long before you made this thread.
No, all it means is that they have changed their policy. You are making an unjustified inference. When a company makes a policy, and then a year later no longer follows that policy, they have changed their policy. Just because they talk about their new policy doesn't mean they don't think they have changed it. If they think "exclusive did not mean forever, so we will not be compensating you.", then they never should have compensated RAFers, yet they did.

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how about this, the "Exclusive" is that you got your bonuses for free with the game purchase, everyone who didn't had to pay extra to buy them in the C-Store. So stop whining and be glad you didn't have to pay extra for that stuff. I bought the DDE and the CE so I could get all that cool bonus stuff from the start, I knew full well that it might end up as microtransaction stuff later, and I didn't care, all that matters is I got that stuff way before the other people did.
I did pay extra. I HAD to Preorder and buy the game without any type of Demo or Review or anything. And I had to pay full price. Had I not preordered, I could have gotten it at a significantly reduced price AND paid a little extra for the exclusives, It wasn't free.


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I suggest you stop wasting your time with the forums, PM's to Dev's, Marketing and GM's and do a Consumerist model and go directly to executive management with a letter and a phone call requesting a meeting to discuss your issue.

Hindol Datta, Chief Financial Officer - Link: Executive Team Page on Cryptic.com - Main Cryptic Telephone +! 408-399-1969
I would love to do that if their phone system didn't tell me they no longer have phone support and they never answered two messages I left them. Believe me, that was my first route, certainly not through the Devs or these forums.
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# 147
07-31-2010, 07:19 AM
This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~GM Tiyshen
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# 148
07-31-2010, 07:45 AM
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My god is this thread still open

How many times does someone have to give you the answer. If it was hard to understand what they meant let me sum it up for you NO, ITíS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. If you donít like it theirs the door. Move on with your life and get over yourself. The reason I betting the cryptic does not respond to you is youíre the little boy who cried wolf. And I have a question for you do honestly think if you go-around the forums posting cryptic didnít do this or cryptic shouldnít do that or cryptic owes me this or that. Do you think theyíre going to give in and compensate you or do you think there just going to get fed up with you and just banned you?

Hey, if you don't like it, you don't have to post on this thread. Nobody is making you come read this, you don't like my idea, you can leave and go post in some other forums.

Btw, what can they ban me for? Putting forth an idea? Trying to give Cryptic away to earn more money?

Honestly, if you don't like this thread, leave! Move on from the fact that you and others have a different opinion. There is the door, nobody is making you stay in this thread. Trolling will not change anything.


Exactly what about this is "the boy who cried wolf", a story about how excessive lying leads to death?
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# 149
07-31-2010, 08:18 AM
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Hey, if you don't like it, you don't have to post on this thread. Nobody is making you come read this, you don't like my idea, you can leave and go post in some other forums.

Btw, what can they ban me for? Putting forth an idea? Trying to give Cryptic away to earn more money?

Honestly, if you don't like this thread, leave! There is the door, nobody is making you stay in this thread.
I will leave this post because you are right about that and I do apologies for losing my temper (once again itís Saturday and Iím stuck at work and not playing the game I like) but by that same accord you need to stop posting in other threads about the c-store or any of its polices when that thread has nothing to do with it. I really enjoy playing this game but you seem to want nothing more to get people to stop playing. A new person comes in last week and asked how the game is and basically you tell him it mediocre at best then go in to one of your little rants about the c-store. Let people come to their own conclusion on the game and STO. You need to stop going around telling every your opinion like itís facts itís not itís your opinion and everyone is entitled to their opinion but let them make up their own minds. if everyone started doing what you are doing then we would all be SOL on STO because no new players would come (here I am ranting on about your ranting on god I hate working on Saturday)
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# 150
07-31-2010, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cpt.William2 View Post
No, all it means is that they have changed their policy. You are making an unjustified inference. When a company makes a policy, and then a year later no longer follows that policy, they have changed their policy. Just because they talk about their new policy doesn't mean they don't think they have changed it. If they think "exclusive did not mean forever, so we will not be compensating you.", then they never should have compensated RAFers, yet they did.
I am not inferring anything. They have repeatedly stated what they think their policy is. Just because you disagree that their clarification of that policy isn't a change in that policy, does not alter the fact that they do not see a conflict or a change having occurred. Why are they going to address something they do not think happened other than to repeat, again, "we have not changed our policy"?

Galaxy X was a different situation, so you really need to get over that.
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