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Lt. Commander
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Klingons were suposed to be the "PvP" faction, at launch people knew this and many chose it because of this reason. Play off it dont fight it. Most wanted a war not PvE that would go stale after a week and take months to create. If you dont want the Klingon resubs then continue the course you are on now and listen to the "Fed-ons" that are left. If you want any chance to get the Klingons back into the game give us a WAR!!!

I suggest creating a "Neutral" zone where factions can fight each other for various control points. It could work something like this.

You could fly into the neutral zone and it would open you up for PvP (so its completely voluntary). You could then go into a planetary zone and fight for space supremacy, then control of a space station or stations (you can seize control of it or majority of them by boarding them and taking them over). You can then Beam to the surface and begin taking over planetary bases. Allow fleets to be able to take control of these stations and bases and its their responsibility to build up the defenses and protect them.

This wouldn't have to be pretty it is a war zone after all. This would allow the player base years of content for the same developer investment the players go thru in a matter of days. You made a PvP faction now give us the war you promised, and watch the Klingon re-subs come in.
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# 2 o_o)b
07-26-2010, 03:11 PM
I'm not against more PvE to help bolster the ranks of Klinks online but a Neutral Zone like this certainly has more appeal.
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# 3
07-27-2010, 11:30 AM
Signed and firmly believed in.
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# 4
07-27-2010, 11:40 AM
I agree with this, I dont even have a Klingon toon but all the hard work put in by devs to bring 8 new missions or whatever will keep players busy for what.... 8 days and sadly most wont even read the script. A pvp warzone would offer dynamic content keeping players busy for months even years. It would also bolster the ranks of fleet participation.

I don't want to dismiss the work you have done, and I appreciate the additions and still love this game, but true war zones would bring more to this game than a few new missions.

That all being said, I think the refit ships will offer more variety and playstyles which is a great thing for this game.
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# 5
07-27-2010, 08:02 PM
There was talk of a Fall release of some info regarding the war. Its not necessarily a release of content, but a supposedly the initial plan for building it.

None the less, there has been a change of command, so this may have been scraped...but even if it hasnt, we need to voice our desires in order to help keep this content request visible and relevant.

Lastly, are continued input may be able influence its development.




But yes, we need a dynamic and open, terrirtory capture, war model.
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# 6
07-28-2010, 03:57 AM
I agree with what the OP is asking for but I consider it harsh to call what has been created "Crap" seeing many Klingons/and would be Klingons asked for more PvE. Like it or not, in my MMO experiece, more people like PvE than PvP and Klingons could do with the numbers if such a zone existed. Yes, Cryptic have been at fault to not make the faction more desireable from the start/launch, but more PvE will bring more interest to the faction from Fed players imo, and to be fair, Cryptic are only attempting to answer many threads where Klingons are asking for more PvE content.

I honestly think the new guy has his finger on the pulse.
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# 7
07-28-2010, 05:45 AM
I'd say the Klingons need more PvE and better PvP.
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# 8
07-28-2010, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Buchanon
I agree with what the OP is asking for but I consider it harsh to call what has been created "Crap" seeing many Klingons/and would be Klingons asked for more PvE. Like it or not, in my MMO experiece, more people like PvE than PvP and Klingons could do with the numbers if such a zone existed. Yes, Cryptic have been at fault to not make the faction more desireable from the start/launch, but more PvE will bring more interest to the faction from Fed players imo, and to be fair, Cryptic are only attempting to answer many threads where Klingons are asking for more PvE content.

I honestly think the new guy has his finger on the pulse.
I would not consider it harsh. It is what we were made to be, it was them who said Klingons were the "PvP" faction so the focus should be better PvP! And then add PvE content once we have a decent PvP system.

And why would Klingons want more Fed players??? Thats the reason we get new outfits instead of anything meaningfull!!! Klingons had a nice population at launch and most of those left because all we had was a few decent PvP maps to choose from. If they had a decent PvP system alot of those KLINGONS will return...
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# 9
07-28-2010, 09:46 AM
Warzones have been 'on the drawing board' for a while now - we had a dev indicate they wanted to add that months ago. I should not need to indicate, again, how clear the lack of resourcing is, but it's also quite clear that they want to add it.

As for Klingons being PvP only, you're welcome to swallow the party line, but as I've said before, it's quite clear that Klingons were just unfinished at (the very early) release, and calling them PvP only was a convenient way to sucker people into believing the content was done. Look at the many (many) fix Klingon threads through this forum - PvP was but a small part of the overall broken whole that needed (or needs) work.

None of this detracts from a welcome desire for more & better PvP - but if you go around throwing around names at anyone who disagrees with you just because they'd actually like an immersive Klingon PvE experience as well as excellent PvP (you know, like the Federation gets but better written), well, it's not going to help your cause.

So, in summary, yes this would be great. Your somewhat ranting approach leaves a lot to be desired.

Edit: In all seriousness, no I'm not trolling nor trying to be dismissive - I just think that the Klingon population is small enough without labelling or suggesting that somehow those that remain are poor imitations. Some of us have been here a while too. It's not how you win over an audience. On the plus side, at least you didn't use that terrible mis-applied word, carebears.
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# 10
07-28-2010, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Askarr
Warzones have been 'on the drawing board' for a while now - we had a dev indicate they wanted to add that months ago. I should not need to indicate, again, how clear the lack of resourcing is, but it's also quite clear that they want to add it.

As for Klingons being PvP only, you're welcome to swallow the party line, but as I've said before, it's quite clear that Klingons were just unfinished at (the very early) release, and calling them PvP only was a convenient way to sucker people into believing the content was done. Look at the many (many) fix Klingon threads through this forum - PvP was but a small part of the overall broken whole that needed (or needs) work.

None of this detracts from a welcome desire for more & better PvP - but if you go around throwing around names at anyone who disagrees with you just because they'd actually like an immersive Klingon PvE experience as well as excellent PvP (you know, like the Federation gets but better written), well, it's not going to help your cause.

So, in summary, yes this would be great. Your somewhat ranting approach leaves a lot to be desired.

Edit: In all seriousness, no I'm not trolling nor trying to be dismissive - I just think that the Klingon population is small enough without labelling or suggesting that somehow those that remain are poor imitations. Some of us have been here a while too. It's not how you win over an audience. On the plus side, at least you didn't use that terrible mis-applied word, carebears.
I am not the one who 1st called the Klingons the PvP faction Cryptic did. Nor did I ever say they should be PvP only, What I did say is since cryptic told us Klingons were PvP oriented then thats what they needed to concentrate on, since that is what those who chose to be Klingons signed up for. Most of the Klingons who left 30 days after launch said it was PvP system in place is why (and thats when we had a decent population).

With the Dev time it took to create the 8 missions they should have been able to come up with a decent PvP system. Give us something that will last for years before you design something that can be done in hours (or all they will ever get done is trying to play catchup). And the funny part is it that it would benefit both factions not one or the other.

All I am asking for is Cryptic to stick to what they said then build up from there.
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