Lt. Commander
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# 71
08-22-2010, 09:44 PM
hit Captain rank, wtf no new BOFFs? that's weird

hit Rear Admiral, two more BOFF slots yay! more space buddies.

hit Vice Admiral, wtf no new BOFFs again?

look on C-Store see BOFF slots are now a purchase. That's wierd, didn't know BOFFs were considered "just cosmetic".

look closer, BOFFs slots are PER CHARACTER not account wide.

/consider cancelling
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# 72
08-22-2010, 10:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by artic1337
hit Captain rank, wtf no new BOFFs? that's weird

hit Rear Admiral, two more BOFF slots yay! more space buddies.

hit Vice Admiral, wtf no new BOFFs again?

look on C-Store see BOFF slots are now a purchase. That's wierd, didn't know BOFFs were considered "just cosmetic".

look closer, BOFFs slots are PER CHARACTER not account wide.

/consider cancelling
Dont you think 10 BOFFs Slots are enough? if you want more I call that 'cosmetic'.
I mean how many of you Bridge Officers are in use all the time?

4 on the Bridge and 4 on the Away-team (if you choose diffrent ones then the ones on the Bridge)
So that makes 2 poor buddies unused all the time... and you need more? For what purpose?

If thats a reason to quit a game, go ahead...

Cya!
Lt. Commander
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# 73
08-22-2010, 10:32 PM
no, i think 10 is way too many.

we should only get 4 BOFF slots in-game and have to purchase the rest at $6 a pair PER character.

you need 10? i only need 5. but then i ranked up and the game gave me 2 more and it was cool and then 2 more and then it became a c-store item and then i didnt get 2 more for ranking up . . . i wonder ch-ching why they ch-ching decided to ch-ching ch-change that?
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# 74
08-23-2010, 02:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by USS Parallax
Seems like a lot of us are giving up. We just want content and we add "for the C-Store" to try and make it happen.

I hate the C-Store. It's pure evil. But I still find myself compromising and suggesting stuff for the C-Store when in reality, again, I hate it and believe nothing should be in it at all. The amount of content is already too small even compared to most MMOs out there to be charging me for other stuff.
As long as it stays purely costumization (well and account services) and not content them I'm okay with it and supportive for it.
To clarify, content is things like new zones, new missions, new functional items, pretty much everything you need to play the game.

New uniform options are always welcome though. I just wished stuff was a bit cheaper. I tend to buy pretty much everything new unless it's extremely expensive such as those tier 5 ships and I wished some services were better.
The option to buy 2 additional BO slots or ship slots for example should be account wide and not just character wide. For all I care they increase the price a little bit but I really wish I could make use on it on more chars then just my main one.

I also wish that they'd allow you to get more off duty uniforms then just the single one we got now.

Overall I'm happy with the c-store though, as long as I don't look at my bank receipt that is.
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# 75
08-23-2010, 03:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nishka
The option to buy 2 additional BO slots or ship slots for example should be account wide and not just character wide. For all I care they increase the price a little bit but I really wish I could make use on it on more chars then just my main one.

LOL, this is exactly what the OP was pointing out.

I get the impression you think the "2 Additional BOFFs" C-store purchase is a bit of a rip off (me too) . . . and your reaction, what compromise you're willing to put up with to see it be account wide? CHARGE US MORE.
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# 76
08-23-2010, 05:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by artic1337
hit Captain rank, wtf no new BOFFs? that's weird

hit Rear Admiral, two more BOFF slots yay! more space buddies.

hit Vice Admiral, wtf no new BOFFs again?

look on C-Store see BOFF slots are now a purchase. That's wierd, didn't know BOFFs were considered "just cosmetic".

look closer, BOFFs slots are PER CHARACTER not account wide.

/consider cancelling
The BO progression does predate the new BOFF slots, though. It was always that way. Vice Admiral is new, of course, and came after the new BOFF slots, but the gap you encountered earlier was in the game before there was a C-Store item to fill it. BOFF slots definitely represent space on the servers, though. You've got to store their looks (head, body, uniform selections), traits, race, equipment, name, powers (selection and levels) and all that. I can see that they want to limit how much storage space requires and how much transaction cost every player costs them (and not just them, but also us - the more data to be handled, the slower their database will return results. Remember the change in the Exchange only showing the first 400 items?)

I think some people don't understand the purpose of the C-Store, or don't want to understand it. Or just don't like it's purpose. Whatever.
Others seem to eager to spend money on the C-Store and get items there. Some stuff has to come out in regular, "free" (more "subscription included") updates.

I think ship costumes and even the refits are fine for C-Store and maybe even best done there- they are not crucial for the content of the game. As long as I can fly a tier 5 ship with my character and have some choices, I am good. But if I had to pay to get even one ship for my rear admiral or vice admiral, or if I had to pay for a new mission, I would think that's wrong. That's part of the core they need to expand. It would be like saying "If you want to continue playing, your subscription price will increase."
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# 77
08-23-2010, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
BOFF slots definitely represent space on the servers, though. You've got to store their looks (head, body, uniform selections), traits, race, equipment, name, powers (selection and levels) and all that. I can see that they want to limit how much storage space requires and how much transaction cost every player costs them (and not just them, but also us - the more data to be handled, the slower their database will return results. Remember the change in the Exchange only showing the first 400 items?)
You do know that character/ship/BOff information takes up very little space in a database, right? It's all text. The items that take up the space (looks, traits, etc) is shared amongst all players (either stored locally or on the server). So no, it's NOT a space issue...no matter what the devs want to tell you. It's the same argument that was made during beta when people were complaining about only getting three character slots free with a paid subscription. The only costs incurred would be having to run backups on the database...which they should already have had if they have intelligent programmers.
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# 78
08-23-2010, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack_Armstrong View Post
You do know that character/ship/BOff information takes up very little space in a database, right? It's all text. The items that take up the space (looks, traits, etc) is shared amongst all players (either stored locally or on the server). So no, it's NOT a space issue...no matter what the devs want to tell you. It's the same argument that was made during beta when people were complaining about only getting three character slots free with a paid subscription. The only costs incurred would be having to run backups on the database...which they should already have had if they have intelligent programmers.
Each toon takes up as much memory as a full page of text. Cryptic just uses the "too much space" trick to get people to pay an outrageous price for soemthing that they wouldnt even notice in their memory storage. Cryptic servers would have multiple Terabytes of storage. (or atleast we hope )
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# 79
08-24-2010, 07:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DES_SNIPER View Post
Each toon takes up as much memory as a full page of text. Cryptic just uses the "too much space" trick to get people to pay an outrageous price for soemthing that they wouldnt even notice in their memory storage. Cryptic servers would have multiple Terabytes of storage. (or atleast we hope )
Agreed. 100%
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# 80
08-25-2010, 04:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by artic1337
LOL, this is exactly what the OP was pointing out.

I get the impression you think the "2 Additional BOFFs" C-store purchase is a bit of a rip off (me too) . . . and your reaction, what compromise you're willing to put up with to see it be account wide? CHARGE US MORE.
I'm weird like that.

In a perfect world I could get everything for free, however I do understand that when it comes down to basic matters it's money that makes the world go round. Well that and the kinetic energy from over 5 billion years ago when our solar system was created and swung our blue marble in orbit around a hot ball of gas.
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