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# 21
09-08-2010, 10:12 PM
I'm having fun working on this, even if it does strike me as a little... obsessive. Anyway!

Any chance I could ask for a little help, Allerka? As I was working on my MSD, I realized my angle was off and had to start over to get a proper profile. Of course, this leaves me with a tad less space to work with and some odd empty spaces, not to mention the foredecks I'm having trouble even thinking about what to put there. And I downright hate the little device below my deflector dish (it's supposed to represent my Quantum Slipstream thingy, but it looks wrong).

Anyone mind taking a look and maybe making a few suggestions? USS Tenacity MSD - Work in progress.
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# 22
09-09-2010, 04:21 AM
Looks great! Really impressed with it Naju ^_^
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# 23
09-09-2010, 05:12 AM
Well, I can see a few things.

1. The warp nacelle should be lowered and placed away from the main hull so you can actually see all of the main hull. This is a pretty standard thing, we saw it with the Voyager MSD, among others.

2. The warp core is too small. The only time I've seen one that small was on the Defiant. If you look at all the official MSDs, you'll notice the warp cores tend to be huge, typically spanning 3/4 to the entire secondary hull. Voyager's is eight decks tall, the Enterprise E's is 14, for example. Mine is currently sitting at 18 decks with the core 12 high. It should probably also be further back, closer to the warp nacelles (since that's where most of its power goes).

3. I can see the turboshafts running vertically, but there's no horizontal segments. Even on a smaller ship like that, there should probably be some horizontal sections.

4. There should probably be a wall between the shuttles and everything else on that deck. If that's the shuttle bay, it should also be two decks high, there's no way even the tiny shuttles would fit in the space of a single deck and have room to take-off.

If you're looking for more stuff to fill in the remaining blanks, you're going to need a lot of crew quarters, unless you're doing it military-style and cramming your crew into mass bunkrooms. Given Starfleet almost never does that, that seems unlikely. Look around the interior of your ship in-game. There's plenty of extra rooms to look at: captain's quarters, mess hall, sickbay, engineering lab, and transporter room. Look at the shows as well, and see what they have. Cargo bays, holodecks, astrometrics labs, science labs, etc. It's a science ship, so I'm sure it'd have plenty of science facilities (whereas mine, being an escort, has more along the lines of armories, tactical equipment, extensive weaponry systems, etc.).

It's looking good, though, keep it up!
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# 24
09-09-2010, 01:05 PM
Excellent suggestions. Exactly what I was looking for, thanks. Back to the drawing board!
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# 25
09-09-2010, 01:17 PM
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Well, I can see a few things.

1. The warp nacelle should be lowered and placed away from the main hull so you can actually see all of the main hull. This is a pretty standard thing, we saw it with the Voyager MSD, among others.

2. The warp core is too small. The only time I've seen one that small was on the Defiant. If you look at all the official MSDs, you'll notice the warp cores tend to be huge, typically spanning 3/4 to the entire secondary hull. Voyager's is eight decks tall, the Enterprise E's is 14, for example. Mine is currently sitting at 18 decks with the core 12 high. It should probably also be further back, closer to the warp nacelles (since that's where most of its power goes).

3. I can see the turboshafts running vertically, but there's no horizontal segments. Even on a smaller ship like that, there should probably be some horizontal sections.

4. There should probably be a wall between the shuttles and everything else on that deck. If that's the shuttle bay, it should also be two decks high, there's no way even the tiny shuttles would fit in the space of a single deck and have room to take-off.

If you're looking for more stuff to fill in the remaining blanks, you're going to need a lot of crew quarters, unless you're doing it military-style and cramming your crew into mass bunkrooms. Given Starfleet almost never does that, that seems unlikely. Look around the interior of your ship in-game. There's plenty of extra rooms to look at: captain's quarters, mess hall, sickbay, engineering lab, and transporter room. Look at the shows as well, and see what they have. Cargo bays, holodecks, astrometrics labs, science labs, etc. It's a science ship, so I'm sure it'd have plenty of science facilities (whereas mine, being an escort, has more along the lines of armories, tactical equipment, extensive weaponry systems, etc.).

It's looking good, though, keep it up!
Yeah, most crew quarters are quite big, when you're at a decent rank, but when you're the bottom of the ranks, you do have quite cramped, shared quarters, usually 4-6 per room, bunked, kinda military stile, but that's usually for Ensign and ranks below.
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# 26
09-09-2010, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by momiji View Post
Yeah, most crew quarters are quite big, when you're at a decent rank, but when you're the bottom of the ranks, you do have quite cramped, shared quarters, usually 4-6 per room, bunked, kinda military stile, but that's usually for Ensign and ranks below.
That's gonna vary from ship to ship, I think. A massive ship like a Galaxy-class, we saw the guest quarters were the size of a hotel suite, and lower-ranking personnel usually had two to a room (which is still fairly spacious). Meanwhile, on Voyager, junior officers still were two to a room, and the rooms were maybe half the size of the Enterprise. And then, further still, on the Defiant we saw the rooms were only a few meters in either direction, with the beds reduced to two bunks built into one of the rooms (pretty much what I had in the military, heh).

I would think a science vessel like that would be about on par with Voyager's setup.
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# 27
09-14-2010, 07:25 PM
So anyway, still working on the MSD, but the awesome Momiji has completed the dedication plaque for the USS Durandal.

Behold!
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# 28
11-26-2010, 09:02 PM
Great thread! I found it while looking for resources for making my own ship's MSD. I have that old school game, Starship Creator, and it's a pretty good resource, but do you guys know if there's anywhere I could find all the ship components it has as separate pictures? It's going to be hard, if I use it as a reference, to alt-tab my way back and forth (since it's so old-school it can only be played in full screen mode).
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# 29
03-18-2013, 04:34 PM
I have loved this subject since i was a kid, through out the years i made a few. Here is the compilation.http://epainter510.deviantart.com/art/CutAways-80011466its a few years old.
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# 30 Anyone here??
02-22-2014, 05:57 PM
I was wondering if anyone was still working on the Nimbus Class MSD as I would love to see it, Thanks
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