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# 21
09-01-2010, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
back of the bus more like it.
I can't sit at the back of the bus anymore.... I am tempted to take the Fed player in front of me, open the emergency exit and throw them out....

Quote:
Originally Posted by StormShade
More Klingon Content is coming.

All of our new content is going to be cross faction going forward, which means that when the feds get a new mission, so to will the Empire.

We have Gorn, Nausicaan, and Orion Ships coming for you all, as well as several new Klingon Vessels.

It's likely that we'll be doing more Klingon only content in the future as well.

However, all of this takes time to make and implement. We know that the Empire and her Allies need more content, and we are working to make that content.

Thanks,

Stormshade
Yeah, times up. It's end of August and no ships, and only 1 SCREENSHOT.... how much longer we got to wait for screenshots. Make claims after a month and the deadly coming and going for the last thing you said was going in is a total bust. Also, maybe your missing a simple concept here.... let me explain in a simple mathmatical expression:

Starfleet Content = x
Klingon Content = x -50 hours (of gameplay functonality)

So you add a new episode =1 hour
Starfleet Content = x + 1 hour
Klingon Content = (x - 50) + 1 hour (Side Note: With the comm wrap up put in the episode, more like (x-50)+.7

x + 1 != (x -50) + 1 in fact, your back at x(Starfleet) = x - 50 (Klingon)

Now looking at this, you can see that you still HAVE NOT addressed the 50 hours of missing content. I am all for the new all faction missions, but the new episode proves that you didn't even fully flesh out the Klingon side of this new hour of play with the way we get a simple comm message compared to the Fed side. Honestly, your still short, by a lot.

It amazes me how everyone on Cryptic keeps saying they have a Klingon toon yet I doubt ANY of them have leveled it straight to LTG. It's easier to play Klingon if you go into the character creator and set your level at max
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# 22
09-01-2010, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexraptor View Post
Wow just wow.

The original post seriously looks like it was written by a spoiled brat.

Of course it does but what do you expect after all these months of a smattering of content here and there
what do you think it would be like if the Feds had went through what we have on the Klingon side eventually
after 6 months they would break and all you would see is, MORE FED CONTENT NOW!!!! and it would be
understandable.

I can say from experience that D-Rek is not a spoiled brat have played many hours with him but at some
point we Klingons have to play the Squeaky wheel, I mean really it seemed to work since we got a Dev
response (thank you Stormshade).


A lot of this comes from the fact that someone said we would be getting our refits around the end of august
and when the end of august got here what happens Klingons got nothing but lo and behold Feds got another
ship, now I understand that ship was prolly all ready in the works but thats of little consaquence when we
learn that our refits are which we were looking forward too are pushed back another 6 or more weeks.

So please Feds dont take it to heart we Klingons are just frustrated and sometimes we have to blow off
some steam and if you havnt played KDF yet roll one and see for yourself and you may see where we
are coming from.
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# 23 What's left?
09-01-2010, 10:41 PM
Wow, D-Rek has gotten in the Forums Wars. He normaly is very laid back and posts many ideas with helpful feedback from Tribble testing and many other topics. Never seemed like a spoiled brat to me ether.

Well for good or Ill

Welcome to the Trenches and yeah is sucks having to play the Squeaky Wheel. Just watch out for Snipers (mods) and the Sappers (Fed fanboi thread derailers).

I do wish constructive and positive posts would do the job but after 9+ months of those posts being ignored or not used / implemented what's left? Actions speak louder then words and just a few of the actions that show why the fight is on. One old and one new.

1. No Klingon Ship Offered in the RAF program, not thought of at the time.

2. No Klingon Vet LG1 Reward even though its just a coat it was never thought of as being needed.

There are many many more examples of the KDF not thought of in development and after the few posts on it the KDF did get, they now seem like PR spin to string along the KDF subs for 1 more month and 1 more PR spin.
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# 24
09-01-2010, 11:20 PM
thanks dank,

and he's right btw!

i have written several posts in a calm tone with great ideas and feed back.
specific threads with specific ideas about PvE and PvP content.
but the devs dont really care...

although i take advantage of the federation content in this game, i joined STO to play Klingon.
and i am NOT alone...

my tone simply reflects my frustration at having to play a "quarter faction" and to show my despair at how lopsided and unfair the situation actually is.
however this frustrated tone recieved Dev feedback... therefore i will take this oportunity to try and explain in NO uncertain terms what me and my MANY Klingon faction friends want to see in th enear future!

what is even MORE descouraging is the "one step forward two steps back" attitude of cryptic devs.
they give 2 story arcs and 6-8 missions to klingons...

then nerf them and give even MORE content to the federation players, who already have a MORE then complete faction.

federation:
10 playable sector bloacks (including romulan and cardassian space)
2-4 skins for EACH and EVERY ship
DOZENS of PvE missions
double the fleet actions

klingon
1 sector block and half a fed sector block
80% of ships have only one skin
8 PvE missions, in only 3 arcs
few encounters, few options, little to no content, and HOURS of boredom
NEVER ENDING requests for further PvP nerfs
flagrant violation of Sttar Trek Canon

but since many have not read my posts on mission and map replay, new PvP maps and backgrounds, balnce solutions or specific constructive ideas to make the game better....

i will take this oportunity to set aside my frustration and be specific and constructive here:

Specific solutions to this ongoing problem:

1)
MORE sector blocks:
the klingon empire, according to canon, is vast and powerful, rivaling the romulans and cardassians in size.
it shares an extensive border with the romulans and have seized SEVERAL world which remain unclaimed, from the romulan, in 2380's
Klingons in zone constantly talk about how they feel tucked away and tossed aside because we are crammed into one sector block, having less territory then the 2 NPC factions
FOR STARTERS:
add a second sector block that starts to the right of the Mylasa sector in Psi velorum
is 3 sectors tall and one sector wide
and ends just above B'Moth sector in Omega Leonis
Afehir nebula will ahave to be moved tot eh south of Psi velorum sector block, but there is presently room for it there so it will not be a hassle.
This sector needs at least 1 PvE mission arc, and should involve the Gorn and their worlds. this story should reveal how the gorn were conquered and why, and also reveal the bad blood between Gorn and Klingon BEFORE the undine.

2)
allow Klingons access to Pi Canis sector. PERIOD
incude a PvE mission story arc, this should involve Duras Corruption and an expansion on the story that caused the federation klingon war.

3)
allow Klingons access to Psi Velerum Sector and Bajor Sector
according to canon, from previous wars, the klingons have captured several Romulan worlds and this should be SHOWN on the Mylasa sector in Psi Velorum (half should be klingon worlds). Klingons should be able to ENGAGE romulan signal contacts in the Psi Velorum sector.
allow klingons access to Bajor sector through Deferi sector. The klingons have been classically close to DS9 and frequent that station even in times of war with federation (DS9 tv show)
klingon emprie also shares a small border with the cardassian union, and have claimed cardassian worlds during the dominion war in the 2370's, although Gul Dukat reclaimed most (but not all) these border worlds when the dominion joined cardassia.
allow klingons peaceful access to DS9 and especially to quarks bar.
Klingons should be allowed to engage Cardassian signal contacts in Bajor sector.

4)
Klingon versions of ALL federation Fleet actions .
Starbase 24, and halting Klingon patrol fleet actions should be TOP priority.
exchange the fed starbases for kling bases, and exchange the enemy klingon ships for federation ships. (or romulan)

5)
a Second skin for ALL klingon ships. PERIOD
a third skin for all popular klingon ships, especially tier 5 ships. NO EXCUSES

6)
Gorn, Nausican and Orion ships in ALL teirs.
Second skins for all said vessels

7)
more PvP maps
at least one more NEW capture and hold map (such as convoy escort) and the return of mining facility capture and hold
different background and terrain layouts for existing PvP maps (especially space). even if the changes to the maps are a random background and asteroid color change, or a change in the building faction or color, this would mean a LOT to PvP players and would break the manotony of the maps

7)
a FEDERATION CARRIER:
to preserve balance between the factions in order to stop grief that causes unessesary nerfs

these are all specific ideas from my other forum posts.
althougha few may be hard to impliment, the vast majority should be the devs FIRST priority, aside from the successful and well designed Deferi weekly missions.
any more feddie refits or feddie only content will be viewed as a slap in the face to your klingon customers!

as for my tone...

in previous posts i have been colm and well spoken... and received NO attention from the devs.
i am frustrated with the rediculously polsided content balance in this game.
we were promised FOUR factions... and we have recieved 1 and a quarter
therefore i am unapologietic with my attitude and will remain frustrated and unsatisfied untill i SEE and PLAY Klingon content in the VERY near future.

thank you for all your feedback

your friend,
the Angry Klingon
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# 25
09-02-2010, 04:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dank65
Of course it does but what do you expect after all these months of a smattering of content here and there
what do you think it would be like if the Feds had went through what we have on the Klingon side eventually
after 6 months they would break and all you would see is, MORE FED CONTENT NOW!!!! and it would be
understandable.

I can say from experience that D-Rek is not a spoiled brat have played many hours with him but at some
point we Klingons have to play the Squeaky wheel, I mean really it seemed to work since we got a Dev
response (thank you Stormshade).


A lot of this comes from the fact that someone said we would be getting our refits around the end of august
and when the end of august got here what happens Klingons got nothing but lo and behold Feds got another
ship, now I understand that ship was prolly all ready in the works but thats of little consaquence when we
learn that our refits are which we were looking forward too are pushed back another 6 or more weeks.

So please Feds dont take it to heart we Klingons are just frustrated and sometimes we have to blow off
some steam and if you havnt played KDF yet roll one and see for yourself and you may see where we
are coming from.
em you see that now anyways ... they want more ships they want more content they want everything & they want it now.
& the sad part is the devs pander to them because they know if they dont there gonna keep posting & posting till the forums go in to melt down.
where as maybe the dozen or so regular klingons on these forums will only post once or twice per day (maybe more) but they wont continualy create posts asking for content every 10 mins.

its a simple fact the feds ask for refits of ships they get them in double quick time
the klingons say & get promised refit ships a month after the feds .
we sit we wait (ps i called BS on that first week of august) low & behold end of august comes no ships.

TO ME THAT IS A LIE SIMPLE AS.

its like telling your boss your sick when your actually on route to watch a game of football.
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# 26
09-02-2010, 04:15 AM
hell all klings should start posting as often as azurian .. jees that guy`s gotta be the king of thread creators.
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# 27
09-02-2010, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by D-Rek View Post
thanks dank,

and he's right btw!

i have written several posts in a calm tone with great ideas and feed back.
specific threads with specific ideas about PvE and PvP content.
but the devs dont really care...
Many posters have awesome ideas. Very few get a response. So far _one_ player's suggestion made it basically directly into the game. One of how many subscribers? One of how many posters?

It has nothing to do with how much the Devs care, it has a lot more to do with how much time they have to do anything.

People ask and suggest a lot of things. Ideas are easy, implementing them is hard. It takes time.

You might have been a constructive poster, but this thread didn't help your cause at all. It just points out that people really don't like to wait for anything, that they are not willing to recognize that the way from an idea to an actual implementation is a long and hard one.

We can keep suggesting ideas and lending support to new ideas. It will help give Cryptic find the right direction for the game, and it will help prioritizing things. But there is no need to whine or throw insults or whatever people are doing. It doesn't add anything substantial to the discussion. Whining is just like "negative support" to things you dislike - but why not just lend more positive support to the things you like? The sum is the same, but the overal atmosphere on the boards and towards the Devs would be a lot more comfortable and enjoyable. All the negative poisons this atmosphere. It is tiresome. If you feel the need to vent, think hard why you have to vent about a game and if you couldn't use your time more productively.
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# 28
09-02-2010, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Creovex View Post
I can't sit at the back of the bus anymore.... I am tempted to take the Fed player in front of me, open the emergency exit and throw them out....
Remember!!






Lift with the knees to avoid any back injury.

I'll disable the alarm, so the driver doesn't notice.
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# 29
09-02-2010, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexraptor View Post
Wow just wow.

The original post seriously looks like it was written by a spoiled brat.
The OP is absolutely right.

Let me inform you, just in case you haddent noticed THIS IS A HALF FINISHED GAME.

Is that aittle bit clearer?

Oh and i'm sure there will be another half dozen Fed PVE episodes for you to play in the next patch of "Federation online".

Thanks for coming out, have a nice day.
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# 30
09-02-2010, 06:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StormShade
More Klingon Content is coming.

All of our new content is going to be cross faction going forward, which means that when the feds get a new mission, so to will the Empire.

We have Gorn, Nausicaan, and Orion Ships coming for you all, as well as several new Klingon Vessels.

It's likely that we'll be doing more Klingon only content in the future as well.

However, all of this takes time to make and implement. We know that the Empire and her Allies need more content, and we are working to make that content.

Thanks,

Stormshade
Thanks Stormshade
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