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# 1 Universal BO's for Feds
09-16-2010, 09:38 PM
When do the Feds get Universal BO's? I only want 1 or 2...just so I can get a couple of tractor beams on 1 ship and what ever else the KDF BoPs are using on us, that 3 or 4 Fed ships blasting away on the same Keog' BoP can't kill at the VA level.

Every thread I read about the Feds have this and the Feds have that, I keep thinking about those 3 PvP matches with that guy...

The KDF has enough war stuff, what they need is some tooth paste and soap...

Maybe the Federation can send some spys to the KDF High Command and see how they make Univeral BO's, since Star Fleet doesn't seem to have the G2 to figure it out for themselves.

p.s. Can the cool down rate on a Tractor Beam be lowered allllll the way down to 10sec and equip 2 with the same cool down rates? Im not a sci officer so I dont know...maybe that guy was telling the truth and I / we just have to deal with it .
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# 2
09-16-2010, 10:16 PM
Personally I think all ships (Fed and Klink) should all have universal Boff stations.

Make the different classes of ship stand out and be different from one another through specific ship abilities and attributes.

Not through specific bridge crew complements.
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# 3
09-16-2010, 10:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZachVerant
When do the Feds get Universal BO's? I only want 1 or 2...just so I can get a couple of tractor beams on 1 ship and what ever else the KDF BoPs are using on us, that 3 or 4 Fed ships blasting away on the same Keog' BoP can't kill at the VA level.

Every thread I read about the Feds have this and the Feds have that, I keep thinking about those 3 PvP matches with that guy...

The KDF has enough war stuff, what they need is some tooth paste and soap...

Maybe the Federation can send some spys to the KDF High Command and see how they make Univeral BO's, since Star Fleet doesn't seem to have the G2 to figure it out for themselves.

p.s. Can the cool down rate on a Tractor Beam be lowered allllll the way down to 10sec and equip 2 with the same cool down rates? Im not a sci officer so I dont know...maybe that guy was telling the truth and I / we just have to deal with it .
Nah, Universal BOs is part of the "unique" experience on the Klingon side. If you want a universal, we will need your science ships.... for starters. If you want it so bad, go roll a KDF character.

Honestly, I see no reason for the Feds to have universal, they have more respect for rank, form and function, while, if you watched any of TNG or DS9, you will know Klingons could care less who they start a fight with, and constantly attack their leaders.
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# 4
09-16-2010, 10:40 PM
The Two Dev Nebula Drafts (one cruiser and one scienc vessel) each had 1 Universal Lt. Slot.
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# 5
09-16-2010, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Geoduck360
Personally I think all ships (Fed and Klink) should all have universal Boff stations.
Well, maybe not entirely, but one station could be universal - so that Captains who specialize in one area can still take their crew over to a ship of another path without having their focus shifted (by loosing one BO and being "forced" to replace him with a rookie).

I like that the KDF is more "freeform" regarding this, but I think Starfleet could get a "light" version of it.
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# 6
09-17-2010, 05:27 AM
Ive said it before and i'll say it again.

The 3rd ensign slot on all Tier 5 ships should be Universal.

That way people get a lot more freedom in the specific tier 5 ship they fly.

1 console on each should be universal too but one step at a time.
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# 7
09-17-2010, 05:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZachVerant
When do the Feds get Universal BO's? I only want 1 or 2...just so I can get a couple of tractor beams on 1 ship and what ever else the KDF BoPs are using on us, that 3 or 4 Fed ships blasting away on the same Keog' BoP can't kill at the VA level.

Every thread I read about the Feds have this and the Feds have that, I keep thinking about those 3 PvP matches with that guy...

The KDF has enough war stuff, what they need is some tooth paste and soap...

Maybe the Federation can send some spys to the KDF High Command and see how they make Univeral BO's, since Star Fleet doesn't seem to have the G2 to figure it out for themselves.

p.s. Can the cool down rate on a Tractor Beam be lowered allllll the way down to 10sec and equip 2 with the same cool down rates? Im not a sci officer so I dont know...maybe that guy was telling the truth and I / we just have to deal with it .

I would say never but if they do get them eventually I think it should only be after we get equal hull and
shields on all KDF ships.....
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# 8
09-17-2010, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dank65
I would say never but if they do get them eventually I think it should only be after we get equal hull and
shields on all KDF ships.....
Er... You still have higher stats than our refits. Those stats are compromised for your special abilities like cloaking and universal stations.

As far as universal stations go, I think the reverse should be done Federation side.

Introduce a Wesley Crusher-inspired "Acting Ensign". Give him the Wesley rainbow uniform as his default.

His gimmick? He can learn any ensign skill from any class... But he has four ranks of ensign skills in ground and space. I can't learn skills ranked above ensign but he has no class restrictions and he can man any console (bearing in mind he'll have ensign level skills only).

But place him at a commander station and you get any four ensign level skills out of him.

That's the counter to universal stations I'd look at in general... Although I'm also partial to the idea of Federation ships with one universal station. (IMHO, giving Klingon ships more is partly to allow them to get by with less ship variety.)
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# 9
09-17-2010, 07:04 AM
The only KDF ship with Universal slots is the BoP and its is heavily handicapped in hull and shields to compensate for U-slots/turnrate/battle cloak. If U-slots become prevelant on fed vessels, then I agree that the BoP should have an increase in hull and shield to make-up for no longer being the only vessel with U-slots.

As to the refits being weaker than the norm, isn't that the handicap for the "special" abilites that they posses?

I have no problems with U-slots appearing on feds vessels (was going to happen eventually), but I believe that unless the feds have a multi-task scout vessel like the Bop in the works - only the BoP should have all U-slots.

I do not like the idea of all ingame vessels going all U-slot though , as it will erode and destroy any sense of vessel design purpose for which said vessels were intended. Yopu will end up with cruisers that are science, science that are escorts, escorts that are cruisers and the game will lose all sense of role and purpose among the ships of the line.
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# 10
09-17-2010, 07:11 AM
I have to agree with Roach there. When everybody can do everything, regardless of faction, class and specialization, it just gets lame. This is a route I don't want STO to take, but sadly it has already taken a step on it. No need to go down there further.

Though I am still in support for that single universal BO slot for all ships, regardless of faction.
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