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# 21
09-20-2010, 08:01 PM
Really, the most canon appropriate configuartion is to make it all three types. But it was mostly a Science vessel, and it makes sense for it to be a Science ship in game if they had to pick one type.
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# 22
09-20-2010, 08:05 PM
This is little comfort to those who wanted the Nebula to be a cruiser, but it does open the door balance-wise for a new Tactical ship to enter the scene at some point.

They've said they're looking at putting in a "predecessor" to the Enterprise-J. This would be a pretty good candidate for a really tactically-oriented Cruiser, moreso than the Excelsior Refit. Think about it -- a Cruiser with Commander, Lt. Commander, and Ensign Tactical stations, a Lieutenant Science station, a Lt. Commander and Ensign Engineering.

There'd be, of course, things to balance about this design, but if Cryptic were to go that route, I'd leave that in their hands (as though I had a choice).

However, more on topic. There was an episode of TNG where a rogue captain took his Nebula-class ship into Cardassian space and just started blowing everything Cardy to hell. This sticks out as one of the defining moments in the series, for the Nebula class. The ship has definitely proven its worth as a warship in canon, when it needs to be.
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# 23
09-20-2010, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyHappyJoyJoy View Post
And what was every ship that's come out again?

Doesn't seem very "close minded" that a Science Vessel captain might actually, you know, want a Science Vessel.

It does seem kind of close minded that you'd deny them one because of your personal desires when you could always pick up the Excelsior, Galaxy-X, Galaxy-R, Assault Cruiser or Star Cruiser is you want a Cruiser for your Tactical Officer, especially since the Excelsior would gel a lot better with that profession and definitely help your DPS a lot more with it's LtC Tactical Slot (and apparently according to you if "your not doing decent dps, than your not doing your job").

well the point im trying to make is that its not a canon sci vessel (im a stickler for canon) and since its an iconic ship, it should be usable for everyone... i really hate that voyager was made into a sci vessel seeing as though it was classified as an interceptor class of cruiser lol... but i dont argue it cause they made the decision and stuck with it... also a star cruiser is probably gonna have better manueverabilty than the science version of the nebula, and ive seen some sci guys be quite effective in the star cruiser... ill agree that they do need to add more sci and tac vessels, but i think the nebula was a poor choice for it... what next, theyll redesignate the sovreign as a sci vessel as well...



And being a Science Officer your primary position is buff/debuff, and missing all those Science Vessel BOff slots hurts a lot... also it's tougher to play with non-SV power settings.
yes, but if you would have had more of those with the universal boff slot.. (duh..) and there are ways around the sv powers with consoles and whatnot...



Says the guy getting upset that there won't be one more on the pile...and will "whine and cry" over it.
like i said, i wouldnt have been upset enouph to post had they come out and said it was going to be a sci vessel from the get go, they just got me all excited for it, then shut the door....
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# 24
09-20-2010, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Aris
Really, the most canon appropriate configuartion is to make it all three types. But it was mostly a Science vessel, and it makes sense for it to be a Science ship in game if they had to pick one type.
no it wasnt mostly a sci vessel, the only on screen appearence of it with a sci pod on it was the pheonix, there was one appearence with the xtra necelles, and the rest were torpedo pods, and it was usually in combat... ummmm not very sciency lol.....
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# 25
09-20-2010, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Putnam
yes but after he made that statement, another dev stated that they had thought about making it a sci vessel, but felt that it was better suited to be a cruiser... which they were right... but apearantly, these parents will give the candy to the screaming child instead of doing what is right lol...
And they may still make it a cruiser before it's all said and done. I could really see it going either way. Heck, maybe CBS told Cryptic to make it a science vessel (although, I doubt it).

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listen, i know you love to debate things on forums and get peeps going, but im tired, im going to bed, ill pick this back up in the am... lol.... good night all, and just remember, im sure theyll make the nx (which i dont want to see in game) into an escort just cause cryptic seems to like to do all the things i dont like hahahaha... good night..
Actually, I mostly like to be silly and have fun on the forums. When someone posts something I don't agree with, yes, I do debate it. That's (partly) why the forums are here.

(As for the NX-class being an escort, I don't care if they do make it one. Regardless of what class they make it, I'll be buying it. )
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# 26
09-20-2010, 08:25 PM
Well if its Sci, thats OK, but it better have the Phoenix sci pod and not the torp pod on it....lol
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# 27
09-20-2010, 08:34 PM
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Well if its Sci, thats OK, but it better have the Phoenix sci pod and not the torp pod on it....lol
Id like a customization option for that, I always thought the Nebula was a multi role cruiser though. Just cause the few times the ship was seen it was doing science things and tactical things doesnt mean its not capable of other things...the different mission pod scould display the change in role...though its unlikely it will work that way in game.
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# 28
09-20-2010, 08:39 PM
I always figured the Nebula ought to have a class specific equipment slot for the mission pod, allowing the owning player to adjust its type. Giving it the AWACS pod would produce a science ship; bonus to snsors, deflectors, emiters stealth detection, etc. A weapon pod might give it a total of 10 weapon slots (5 fore 5 aft). An extra pair of engines such as was done with the proto-nebula in the graveyard of Best of Both Worlds could give it a larger energy pool. Each pod should also come with changes to the BO seating chart in favor of Science, Tactical, and Engineer respectively.

Though the trick there might be that it would be possible to see an all Nebula group of ships, though that's possible with any current class, a Nebula which can be reconfigured like this would be far more workable...but I think such a thing would be too gimmicky to be taken seriously as a viable strategy.


The ship is already known to have several variants, the AWACS version was shown as the USS Phoenix, all subsequent appearances were with the weapon pod save for a desk model used as set decoration showing it with an extra pair of nacelles in place of the mission pod.

reference;
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ar...oto-nebula.htm
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/nebula.htm
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# 29
09-20-2010, 09:04 PM
So wait.. someone said more than once that they were trying it out. Is it on Tribble?

I know the model is in game and shows outside of ESD in a dock facility.. I hadn't heard that it was testing on tribble, since it was postponed a few weeks.
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# 30
09-20-2010, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiberion1701
So wait.. someone said more than once that they were trying it out. Is it on Tribble?

I know the model is in game and shows outside of ESD in a dock facility.. I hadn't heard that it was testing on tribble, since it was postponed a few weeks.
I don't think it's out for testing, yet; dstahl said it was hitting Tribble this Thursday for testing. I haven't checked Tribble, so I can't be 100% sure if it's not already out yet or not.

edit: just check the ESD ship vendor (on Tribble), and I didn't see it as an option.
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