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# 1 Put Time Limit on PVP Matches!
09-28-2010, 06:31 PM
just spent a good 2 hours nearly in a single pvp match where its was 3 feds vs 2 klings and guess what the klings hardly attacked... a few scraps here and there but the good old hit and run tactic meant the game was going no where only 10 mins in to the latter half of the match the klings got reinforced with 3 more peeps and fed only 1 and got battered... would of rather gotten beaten within 15 - 30mins then 2 flaming hours. My conclusion.

PUT TIME LIMITS ON PVP MATCHES!!
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# 2
09-28-2010, 07:00 PM
That's a horrible idea. My conclusion.
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# 3
09-29-2010, 12:47 AM
You could have always left. If you spend there 2h doing nothing, then I really pity you. But its a lesson well learnt, and if you are smart, you will avoid it next time...if you don't, well maybe another 2h of doing nothing will eventually enlighten you.
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# 4
09-29-2010, 01:57 AM
No offense OP - but terrible idea.

I have visions of griefers/leechers with emergency power to engines and engine batteries zipping around the edge of the map running the clock down instead of playing.
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# 5
09-29-2010, 04:43 AM
ok first of all thanks for your comments, good to see some people expressing their opinions.

Now your saying that its a bad idea and that it was my fault that I didn't leave the match but let me put it to you:

A. Why should I leave and in effect let the other team win? I'm not a rage quitter and will gladly lose to a 5v1 as long as some points are distributed and there is a conclusion to the match.
B. You think its a bad idea... why is that? please try not to just say "That's a horrible idea. My conclusion." What is it about having a timed match that's so bad, explain.
C. More of an address to Lintyuk, Yes It could mean that peps will just fly round and do nothing or get one kill and sit it out (would be super handy to the klingons to decloak, get the kill, camp rest of the match) but what if the more you killed the more points/rewards you get and for wining the match with full score (before the timer is out) you'll get bonus points/rewards, as long as there is an incentive to do pvp and battle other peeps then people wont just keep running, the more you kill the better the score will rack up for you and your team.

Please comment

P.S.
Don't most if not all popular sports games have a time limit... just thought I'd throw that one out there.
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# 6
09-29-2010, 04:48 AM
I tell you why its bad idea. If there would be counter and the game would end in 15 minues with a 0:0 draw. You did not won, nor loose, didn't get anything, just lost time. If you would have left the game, the end result for you would be the same, or rather greater, because you would have not wasted time.

Hence why I think there is no need for a feature, if players have already tools for dealing with such situations. If you think that you deserve victory only because you did wait 2h, you are wrong, and also a bit silly, sorry. From my point of view, the other team was a "winner", because you did waste 2h of your playtime. And btw, i highly doubt the enemy klingons were there simply hiding for 2h, i think they simply left.
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# 7
09-29-2010, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Riamu View Post
C. More of an address to Lintyuk, Yes It could mean that peps will just fly round and do nothing or get one kill and sit it out (would be super handy to the klingons to decloak, get the kill, camp rest of the match) but what if the more you killed the more points/rewards you get and for wining the match with full score (before the timer is out) you'll get bonus points/rewards, as long as there is an incentive to do pvp and battle other peeps then people wont just keep running, the more you kill the better the score will rack up for you and your team.

Please comment

P.S.
Don't most if not all popular sports games have a time limit... just thought I'd throw that one out there.
Well 1st of all, I'm sure that everyone would agree that some of the PvP stats do not reflect the players actual worth in a match eg; a very well timed SNB or catching a fleeing Escort with a last gasp tractor which cannot at present be measured in damage or heals. So I would argue that it is possible (not probable) that some crowd controllers, or healers with nothing to heal could fall into a timeout trap - I just think that the current tracking system in place is not well suited to implement such an idea.

I imagine that we could come up with many scenarios (your example of the kill one, all cloak being a very pertinent one) where at present, it would be open to abuse.

Premades can already find that people leave a match, or refuse to move from their spawn on sight - this in my opinion would add an unwanted extra string to the bow of leechers who are already ruining matches for good honest pugs that just want a bit of a ruck with balanced numbers.

I understand why you posted this in the 1st place, but I think if it were implemented tomorrow - you'd likely hate it
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# 8
09-29-2010, 06:59 AM
@Lintyuk - Aye I agree, there would be issues to address when putting in a new system, scaling issues, math and god knows what else to make it "work" to stop peps from sitting out or waiting a match out, think there is a post below this one addressing afkers and leachers and possibly reporting them or some sort of method of kicking them. What do you think would work?

@Dalnar - you saying that there is nothing wrong at all? and how am I the stupid one for waiting it out when it was the other team "hiding" and yes they were there cause we was talking to them. I didn't say I deserved victory at all I was saying that it would be worth losing and getting the points and signing up again and do some missions or other things then waiting around hense some sort of timer.
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# 9
09-29-2010, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Riamu View Post
@Dalnar - you saying that there is nothing wrong at all? and how am I the stupid one for waiting it out when it was the other team "hiding" and yes they were there cause we was talking to them. I didn't say I deserved victory at all I was saying that it would be worth losing and getting the points and signing up again and do some missions or other things then waiting around hense some sort of timer.
If you would have left and entered new match, its likely you would have about 5-6 matches in those 2 hours...instead, you got nothing.
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# 10
09-29-2010, 07:55 AM
Still not confirming the issue are you. The point of the post was that in my opinion a timer might be a way of sorting out the issue if not what else could be done. Like I said I don't rage quit, yea I could of left and maybe got a few more matches in that space of time but it still doesn't help that there is no system to just get on with the match win or lose grab the points and move on. What do you think would fix this problem, if you confirm the issue raised.
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