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# 11
11-16-2010, 10:51 AM
Out of curiosity, why can you not keybind 'Security Escort III' ? Or is it just that it won't pick the right one?
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# 12
11-16-2010, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluepez
ya i get it that its ground combat you can still tab till you see the row of buffs or click to target its not hard to do. WELL Guess i am wroung this guy finds it hard
He seems to switch his looks to match his different escorts from round to round. So, a visual in one match is useless in the next. Meanwhile he has a one button target on you.

So, you suggest that I shoulgd tab aroud the 4-8 (usually the latter) escorts and all of the deployable looking for a buffed character? Right?

Did that. Meanwhile, he has pushed a single key, targeted me and moved behind me to shoot me in the back while I cycled through the forest of targets on screen never even picking him up unless I turned at random in his direction.

That lasts about two seconds until you are dead and they are decsending en mass on
your outnumbered teammates.

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# 13
11-16-2010, 11:39 AM
Bug is correct, as no one can pick him out of a crowd of 8 or more Security Escort III's running in the GROUND arenas, before they are shot in the back. It is not a matter of simply clicking on him like it could be in space.

By constantly changing his costumes to fit in with the other Security Escorts in game and by adding spaces to the end or beginning of his name, it is virtually impossible to target him before you are incapacitated yourself.

If it were any other player doing this, oh well... but this one particular player has a well-documented history of exploits, and the whole ground pvp community is suffering because of it. If it his goal to eradicate ground pvp play altogether, he is well on his way.
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# 14
11-16-2010, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Naevius
Out of curiosity, why can you not keybind 'Security Escort III' ? Or is it just that it won't pick the right one?
None at all.
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# 15
11-16-2010, 12:03 PM
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So my point is instead of tying to shame a fleet into complying with your wishes.... do something more useful. ASK CRYPTIC to change the escort detail (I'm assuming this is what your issue is) To be more clearly NPCS. Make them glow in a pvp match... make them all 8 feet tall.... make them look diffrent then any toon we can make.... dosn't matter. Point is petition the proper people to make the changes so you have no issues.
Thank you for your response and understanding, your analogy to space is dead-on accurate as to what it would be like. Perhaps the reason why we haven't asked Cryptic to change the NPC's is because we have already been asking for their help over the past several months.
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# 16
11-16-2010, 01:17 PM
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Although I don't think this guy should change his name either... you guys get the OP is talking about GROUND combat right. I assume this guy is setting his toon up to look and has named him after his tactical escorts. Using tac init to always have 2-4 with him and running along with them.

There is nothing at all like this in space combat. If photo fleet ALWAYS spawned the exact same ships and you could reliably have it up ALL the time and you made your ship look exactly like the photo ship... and the game gave you NO way to tell the diffence with reticals or what ever... then it would be the same.


So my point is instead of tying to shame a fleet into complying with your wishes.... do something more useful. ASK CRYPTIC to change the escort detail (I'm assuming this is what your issue is) To be more clearly NPCS. Make them glow in a pvp match... make them all 8 feet tall.... make them look diffrent then any toon we can make.... dosn't matter. Point is petition the proper people to make the changes so you have no issues.

As far as not being able to keybind his name though.... seriously ????
Actually no. I missed that in the vague description of pvp that was given.
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# 17
11-16-2010, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kin_Balam
He seems to switch his looks to match his different escorts from round to round. So, a visual in one match is useless in the next. Meanwhile he has a one button target on you.

So, you suggest that I shoulgd tab aroud the 4-8 (usually the latter) escorts and all of the deployable looking for a buffed character? Right?

Did that. Meanwhile, he has pushed a single key, targeted me and moved behind me to shoot me in the back while I cycled through the forest of targets on screen never even picking him up unless I turned at random in his direction.

That lasts about two seconds until you are dead and they are decsending en mass on
your outnumbered teammates.

See now this makes more sense and I can understand your frustrations.
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# 18
11-16-2010, 01:34 PM
Imo clever funny for abit, but if your opponent think it sucks that bad change and be a good sport.
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# 19
11-16-2010, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Husanak View Post
Although I don't think this guy should change his name either... you guys get the OP is talking about GROUND combat right. I assume this guy is setting his toon up to look and has named him after his tactical escorts. Using tac init to always have 2-4 with him and running along with them.

There is nothing at all like this in space combat. If photo fleet ALWAYS spawned the exact same ships and you could reliably have it up ALL the time and you made your ship look exactly like the photo ship... and the game gave you NO way to tell the diffence with reticals or what ever... then it would be the same.


So my point is instead of tying to shame a fleet into complying with your wishes.... do something more useful. ASK CRYPTIC to change the escort detail (I'm assuming this is what your issue is) To be more clearly NPCS. Make them glow in a pvp match... make them all 8 feet tall.... make them look diffrent then any toon we can make.... dosn't matter. Point is petition the proper people to make the changes so you have no issues.

As far as not being able to keybind his name though.... seriously ????
I don't see anything wrong with taking both approaches. Cryptic's targeting system is horrid, especially on the ground, but they don't seem inclined to change it.

But this guy is intentionally subverting a game mechanic. That's exploiting. It's really a lot more polite to appeal to his fleet about it than the alternative.
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# 20
11-16-2010, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by inktomi19d View Post
I don't see anything wrong with taking both approaches. Cryptic's targeting system is horrid, especially on the ground, but they don't seem inclined to change it.

But this guy is intentionally subverting a game mechanic. That's exploiting. It's really a lot more polite to appeal to his fleet about it than the alternative.
I'd go for the alternative, skip the plea and the public explanations about the OP and the situation.
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