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# 71
11-26-2010, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SolidNuetronium
Yes, "canon" went out the airlock as soon as I started destroying Borg cubes with a Miranda in the tutorial.
You mean the critically damaged Borg Cube that you defeated with the help of 3 more powerful ships?
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# 72
11-26-2010, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain_Solok
I am baffled by the fact that you all wish to discuss this.



It is going to be a starter ship. Whether you are pro or con NX the devs are putting it in.


It will be used for 3 days and eventually everyone will delete it from their ship cue to make room for some new retrofit.


The space shuttle perhaps.


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Originally Posted by Cosmic_One View Post
I'm currently Lt Cmdr 5 and still using mine.


Play with it as a VA1 and lets pvp 1v1....


My point stands. This thread is pointless.
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# 73
11-26-2010, 10:16 AM
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What? The Neb is based on the Galaxy; and the D'Kyr is clearly another "Replica" ship design, which I assume the Andorian ship will be as well. We have seen other modern Vulcan ships in canon. We do know that Vulcans have evolved past the D'Kyr.
Not really. So, you have "era" and "form". The Galaxy is late/mid 24th Century "era" along with the Nebula, but using the same *type* of form that the Constitution and Ambassador used.

The Nebula is using the late/mid 24th Century "era" styling, but with the Miranda's *type* of form.

The Nebula was intended to be to the Galaxy what the Miranda was to the Constitution.


Not going to get into a discussion about the D'Kyr influenced ship we have in the header, except that to me it clearly looks like a modern re-working of the old ENT ship, built for Starfleet by a Vulcan team.
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# 74
11-26-2010, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain_Solok
Play with it as a VA1 and lets pvp 1v1....


My point stands. This thread is pointless.
I have no desire to PvP, not with an NX nor with my Fleet escort. And I can't imagine anyone who likes Star Trek would believe that even Kirk, in his TOS Constitution would stand any chance in PvP against a ship with 145 years of advanced tech design.
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# 75
11-26-2010, 10:24 AM
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You mean the critically damaged Borg Cube that you defeated with the help of 3 more powerful ships?
But I got the loot so I basically destroyed a slightly gimped cube in a freaking Miranda lol.
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# 76
11-26-2010, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SolidNuetronium
But I got the loot so I basically destroyed a slightly gimped cube in a freaking Miranda lol.
I think that's just more experienced captains in the other 3 ships letting the noob ensign feel important.
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# 77
11-26-2010, 10:26 AM
I think a lot of folks, immersed completely in their nerdish ways forget the obvious. Its a game. When you get out of your car in real life do you see a load screen? This should be your first clue that this game is not real. Secondly, Star trek is classified as science fiction, meaning its made up stuff. So making rational arguements about realism in a fictional work is just silly.

The fact is, within Star Trek, there are some things which are very iconic. The ships of the tv series fit this category. Hundreds of millions of people around the world recognize the Tos Enterprise,

Ive been watching Star Trek for nearly 40 years. I've seen all the tv episodes, movies, and have read hundreds of the novels. I have four big boxes of action figures and other memorbilia of Star Trek I have collected. I did it because it was fun and I enjoyed it. By the same token, I would enjoy flying a Tos Enterprise retrofit.

I should also add i got the Lifetime sub simply because this game was Star Trek and how much Ive enjoyed it over the years. So the idea that my fellow nerds and geeks, and fellow Trekers and Trekies would deprive me of some fun and enjoyment because it is somehow incongrous with their sense reality superimposed over a work of fiction is very disheartening.



*sorry for typos and grammar, this is from my ipad and I already wasted enough time writing this.
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# 78
11-26-2010, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Walshicus
Not really. So, you have "era" and "form". The Galaxy is late/mid 24th Century "era" along with the Nebula, but using the same *type* of form that the Constitution and Ambassador used.

The Nebula is using the late/mid 24th Century "era" styling, but with the Miranda's *type* of form.

The Nebula was intended to be to the Galaxy what the Miranda was to the Constitution.
Drexler's blog:

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The original concept for the Nebula-class ship was to develop a design that was in the style that Andy Probert had so brilliantly established for the Enterprise-D. (You may recall that every other Federation starship in early TNG episodes was made with recycled movie ships.) Our initial hope was that Greg could use the same molds from the 4' Enterprise-D, but that he could add a bigger bridge and give it bigger windows. The idea was to suggest that this ship was a contemporary of the E-D, but it was a smaller vessel.

"As so often happens with this kind of project, we didn't give Greg enough time to accomplish this, so we decided to retain the original scale of the Galaxy-class ship saucer. I suggested the original 'AWACS' pod in response to a producer's observation that the ship might otherwise appear unbalanced. Unfortunately, the AWACS pod didn't look as elegant as we had hoped in "The Wounded". Rick Sternbach came to the rescue with the cool triangular pod that we used in later episodes."
I don't see any mention of them wanting it to be anything like the Miranda there. YMMV.
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# 79
11-26-2010, 10:31 AM
I dunno how else to explain it man, it's so clearly built with the same form as the Miranda, only updated. I mean I see that plain as day... :s

As I said, it's using late/mid 24th century styling; the curve of the saucer and the warp nacelles... but it's put together like a Miranda.
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# 80
11-26-2010, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Walshicus
I dunno how else to explain it man, it's so clearly built with the same form as the Miranda, only updated. I mean I see that plain as day... :s

As I said, it's using late/mid 24th century styling; the curve of the saucer and the warp nacelles... but it's put together like a Miranda.
I don't see how you can't see it, man. It's a Galaxy without a neck. The AWACS pod was added because it looked imbalanced, not to make it appear to be a Miranda-based design.

See? Vague statements like that work both ways.
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