Well, You know them zany Germans and thier pratical jokes........................

I cant wait to get into vice pvp.
I hope there is more players and games, then Comander pvp

Last time i checked 12 deaths weren't enough to lose a match.

What i find amusing is that they clearly picked FvF so they wouldn't have to fight naughty cloaking Klingons and then got 5 cloaked Fed ships instead. *chortles*

Irony at its finest.

Haha, that's what you get when you let gurlz play along

JK, couldn't resist, sorry!

*ducks and makes a run for it asap*

Could also be that they queued up for FvK as well, but got the FvF queue first.

However, if FvF was their intent, then there is some epic irony there.


Wait, what? You mean that if you guys had a team of 5 LFs, just randomly, you might not be a premade? Because if I were playing against you, I would assume that you guys are a premade, since it is 5 people from the same fleet on the same team. Doesn't matter if you are 5 escorts or 5 Mirandas, you are still a premade because you are from the same fleet, at least from the opponent's point of view.

take that all back they are wetting themseves laughing in vent having successfully lied to me

Guess it depends on your defination of "premade"

I define at it as an attempt of making the team composition the most ideal for any given situation, where skills are chosen for maximum synergy,

ie:
Everyone carries resistance debuffs (AP:Beta or Scan)
Everyone carries atleast one copy of TSS and/or HE

I would also have to say that coordinating on Vent is mandatory.

LF doesnt do this.. While we do have Vent, we dont really use it much in PvP, and our loadouts are whatever we feel like using.

Sure, we *could* do premades, but that would require us to ditch the escorts we love, and fly with the same lineup as 90% of all PvP fleets do.. (Hint: "Star Trek - Cruiser Online")

Sorry, we're not into FoTM or cookiecutter ships or loadouts. We fly with what we feel like, and if we happen to lose, then we lose.. Noone really cares about it.

And you know this how? Unless you are with them on Vent/TS, you know their builds, and you know why they are in the PvP match, then you don't know it is a full premade. Just because LF doesn't premade doesn't mean they are the only ones who don't just get together and play. Given, this is your definition:

By my definition, I would say AE was a premade and your "premade" would be my "prebuilt" or "constructed" PvP team, as there was the intent to run a team of 5 experienced PvPers, a team that would easily compete well in a tournament. Perhaps your definition is the "standard" definition passed down from generation to generation of MMOers. If you see a team of similar constitution in the future a few times, then I would see perhaps they are "premade" by your definition. I've never seen them in PvP, so I can't make a judgment.