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# 21
12-14-2010, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Splutter
I'm not really sure that I understand why the Pi Canis missions exist... they're great, and a lot of effort has been spent making them, but the loot/rewards doesn't make any sense to me.
They are there to give Klingons something to do, and a Klingon way to gather research materials. Yes you may not get rares in that instance, but I haven't seen anywhere that Feds can pick up 30 common research components in 1 map. As far as gathering the low level components, you are either going to have to get them from the exchange, a Fed alt, or start a new character to feed samples to your designated crafter. If you are a LG Klingon, then you should be used to half-implemented solutions by now
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# 22
12-14-2010, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Splutter
According to a poster on a different thread, the freighters only ever contain basic crafting materials, not traces - so doing the Pi Canis missions you will get vast amounts of basic crafting materials, and a tiny amount of rare traces.
Klingons need basic crafting materials. They had zero anomaly gathering and zero crafting until Season 3. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero.

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I'm not really sure that I understand why the Pi Canis missions exist... they're great, and a lot of effort has been spent making them, but the loot/rewards doesn't make any sense to me.
I'm not sure how long you played as a Klingon prior to Season 3. However, even the grind to Commander was rough - let alone from Commander to Rear Admiral (where content parity starts appearing more).

Aside from the Weeklies, Klingons get two featured missions every ten levels. That's it. There's no leveling path outside PvP, Exploration, or Defense/DSE grinds.
  • Klingons players want ways of getting anomalies to bring them to par
  • Klingons players want more content (this statement will only make sense if you recall things before the weekly series or Season 2).

This is a good step toward giving Klingons more to do and the missions are quite a bit more engaging that the average patrol.
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# 23
12-14-2010, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Leviathan99
That and I assumed everyone was sitting on lots of unused crafting materials like me, waiting for a crafting revamp.
That and I've had about 4 characters farming data samples and only having one character doing the majority of the crafting.
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# 24
12-14-2010, 08:51 PM
I think they will sell for 40mill easily lol unless the exchange is taxed by then because then It will be 50mill to compensate for the tax losses :p:p:p

I'm wondering should I already start pre-sale thats what a true blooded Ferengi would do.
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# 25
12-15-2010, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightops25 View Post
They are there to give Klingons something to do, and a Klingon way to gather research materials. Yes you may not get rares in that instance, but I haven't seen anywhere that Feds can pick up 30 common research components in 1 map.
After doing them again last night (reached 1650 crafting with around 6m EC spent), I think I finally understand:
- these missions give the same amount of rare traces as any other mission (possibly less - I'm not really clear why half the time the crates/anomalies drop different tiers).
- these missions give a larger quantity of basic crafting materials, but those materials are mostly used for levelling crafting, at 1650 you don't need millions of them (depending on aegis obviously).

In which case the missions are fine:
- they are most useful for new klingon players seeking to level crafting. (or players that PvP a lot - as there are no crafting rewards in PvP).
- they are slightly more useful than other missions for LG players with maxed crafting. (you receive slightly more basic materials, but roughly identical amounts of rare materials).
- they are still almost entirely useless for anyone whose crafting level does not equal their combat level, but you could sell the junk to fund your "red-matter habbit".

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Originally Posted by Nightops25 View Post
As far as gathering the low level components, you are either going to have to get them from the exchange, a Fed alt, or start a new character to feed samples to your designated crafter. If you are a LG Klingon, then you should be used to half-implemented solutions by now
Oh yes. Honestly, the developers have done a much better job of Klingon content than I had expected - and Pi Canis is yet another new idea... And 6m EC really isn't the end of the world... (if you pick the right schematics, and buy the right materials then you can recoup a chunk of that).

If the emblem reward is tweaked slightly and Eriksson fixed, then the Pi Canis missions will be very good (and the optional objective idea is a great concept - but obviously needs more tweaking for non-escorts).


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Originally Posted by Darren_Kitlor
I'm not sure how long you played as a Klingon prior to Season 3. However, even the grind to Commander was rough - let alone from Commander to Rear Admiral (where content parity starts appearing more).
I played a Klingon in season 1, so believe me, I do understand .

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Originally Posted by Darren_Kitlor
This is a good step toward giving Klingons more to do and the missions are quite a bit more engaging that the average patrol.
I quite agree - the idea behind the optional objectives is also good (as-is the crafting mini-game, the idea of 'skill' to some degree, or at least problem solving is nice).
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# 26
12-21-2010, 11:22 PM
I am my fleets master crafter, and I fabricate everything for them from hypos to very rare admiral items. For those with low research points, I suggest you petition your fleet to find somebody maxed out in research points, and request that he/she craft items for the fleet in return for a special title or other reasonable compensation. The crafter can be emailed the parts and item request, then email the finished product back to the sender. Attemt to avoid doing any business dealings with the dirty Ferengi if at all possible, save your millions of EC for something else.
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# 27
12-22-2010, 02:49 AM
We have a Master Crafter in Starfleet Special Operations Group: http://starfleetops.org/

Last night, my fellow Commodore greated me with the full set of Aegis items. Now with their combined strength I can rule the gal... uh now I have one of the most powerful escorts in the galaxy!

I plan on grinding B'Tran over the holidays to supply him with the rare particle traces he will need to make a set for everyone in our fleet.

Or to sell for millions and make our bank swell like a gorged Tiberian bat! We're saving for a space station, dont'cha know.
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