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# 1 antiproton weapons
03-07-2010, 05:40 PM
I am curious if these have been fixed lately. Saturday I ran into several t5 fed groups who had people using these weapons and they seemed to really shred my BOP's hull. Especially one escort who I saw rip my hull without even doing any shield damage and RSP doesn't seem to help either. I had heard that they were useless since they seemed to be bugged.

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# 2
03-07-2010, 06:53 PM
I bet he hit you with target subsystems shields and took them down on that side and blew you away.
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# 3
03-07-2010, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike111
I bet he hit you with target subsystems shields and took them down on that side and blew you away.
Yer. if you get a half decent team with a couple of tactical types using target subsystem shields followed by a HW3 volley then you'll get dropped quickly. You need shields about 75ish to withstand it. One of my worst enemies!
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# 4
03-08-2010, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by albs477 View Post
I am curious if these have been fixed lately. Saturday I ran into several t5 fed groups who had people using these weapons and they seemed to really shred my BOP's hull. Especially one escort who I saw rip my hull without even doing any shield damage and RSP doesn't seem to help either. I had heard that they were useless since they seemed to be bugged.

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I made a thread about this a week ago and got called crazy too. Gettinig killed over and over with full shields, yet people are still convinced that by T5 we don't know when our shields are up or down.
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# 5
03-08-2010, 06:03 AM
1. we were isolated 1v1.
2. my shields never dropped while I took damage.
3. He did less than 150K damage despite killing many of us.

As a note I fought him several times that day and he did not always do this but it did happen many times. In fact we were beaten badly by everyteam that had antiprotons, and no one on the other team did any substantial amount of damage to account for the wholesale slaughter.

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# 6
03-08-2010, 09:41 AM
I have seen this too. I have been unable to figure out if what is happening is a bug, skill or exploit or even server client lag where we just don't see what really happened.
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# 7
03-08-2010, 09:57 AM
part of that is just the shear amount of bleedthrough damage, and especially if you have RSP running, your still taking bleedthrough damage and if you have 5 ships focused on you, you will die if there is enough dps because it just bleeds through, and since most buffs and things only block kinetic resists it tends to rip through hull quickly using anti-proton as its a stat all ships have a native weakness to(or seems to have a native weekness to).

I know I've died with shields up just from the shear amount of dps that a t5 tactical escort can whip out in a single spike, though it hasto do with some of their self buffs as its often only once every so many minutes.

But I've been in a carrier maxed out on defense and had an escort go through shields and hull in 5 seconds or less with rsp running before...no idea how they did it as the combat log was spammed so heavilly by the fight that was going on I couldn't go back through it to read it.
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# 8
03-08-2010, 10:30 AM
One of the ship shield types has 0 bleedthrough. Might be worth it, except Klingon vendors are still (STILL!) screwed up and you can't get Admiral shields from the PvP guy...

There's also that one engineer BOFF skill that increases shield penetration against your target. I wasn't too impressed with it but maybe combined with antiproton (or whatever) it's actually good.



You should look at your combat log next time it happens and try and figure out where it's coming from.
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# 9
03-08-2010, 12:18 PM
Well I tested it today 1 antiproton dual cannon against a keldon in chos. I saw no additional hull damage at all, so they don't do anything at least on the klingon side. There was no evidence of the skip shield proc firing at all.

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# 10
03-08-2010, 12:26 PM
Direct Energy Modulation , I have made this post before as I have fought this team........I also added that with adding resepcts and AND nerfing FBP the ONLY counter to this you're asking for BIG trouble.....FBP is the counter only beam weps get by the shileds with DEM , and FBP only reflects Beam weps , the trouble is ppl found the counter before Feds found how good a full team running DEM is........

As this guy said tho they stack DEM and dont even worry about shields your dead in less than 20's I wasnt running FBP the first fight and it was the only way to slow them down my team was a pug half the players didnt have FBP so they kept feeding them kills till we lost.
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