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# 11
12-23-2010, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Warguppy View Post
The fact that the other ships are available with emblems/tokens says it is deceptive. Making the other ships that way set a precedent of expectation that is not at all unreasonable in this case. So yes, it is deceptive.
All the other ships aren't available with Emblems so your whole point is moot.
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# 12
12-23-2010, 11:52 AM
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How can it be deceptive marketing when it was never stated that the new ship would be available for Emblems? People can't take their assumptions and make them facts. If you have a Dev statement saying the new ship will be available for Emblems that's one thing. Assuming it will be is all on you.
It has been said a few times, the c-store was for only re-skins etc, sure some other ships are in there but you can get the galaxy x by other means, the Excelsior was asked for by lots of people with the understanding that it would be a paid for (and can get it in game, not the Retrofit but they have a lower one). the NX was asked for and people understand it was C-Store.

But the klingon side was always told it was coming with the rest of the new ships, this one got delayed and was told to us that it was not a retrofit but will be available at higher levels. People did not ask for this one to be added until after Cryptic said it was coming. It was never told to us that it is C-store only and for a large amount of $$.
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# 13
12-23-2010, 11:52 AM
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All the other ships aren't available with Emblems so your whole point is moot.
Only the Excelsior is unattainable by any other means. The Galaxy-X can be gotten still through the referral system and all of the other refits can be bought with emblems or the free ship token.
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# 14
12-23-2010, 11:53 AM
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All the other ships aren't available with Emblems so your whole point is moot.
The most recently released Klingon ships are, so my point is not moot. (insert smug, obnoxious emote here).
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# 15
12-23-2010, 11:54 AM
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How do you get the Gal-x? Just curious.
You buy it or get 5 friends to buy the game.

But going back to the "deceptive" practices, if Cryptic never said it was available via emblems, then there is no deception. You have to prove they promised it, and they didn't.

It looks like a cool ship, but like the G-X it has special skills. Why not make people pay for it. Also, we don't have Cryptic's stats. It could very well be they saw with the Nebula more people using cash than emblems. So they decided it was worth making C-Store only.
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# 16
12-23-2010, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack_Armstrong View Post
Devil's Advocate: The Excelsior is C-Store only.

Player Rant: Why can't all refit ships (barring the G-X) be attainable by in-game means. And why is the Naussicaan ship 2k CP?! Outrageous! The others (again, barring the G-X) are only 1200.
Sounds to me the thinking is that the Naussicaan ship is a mirror to the Galaxy-X. They both cost the same it the C-store, and have a similar ability. As well as both only being able to be gathered from the C-Store, (With the exception of the referral program). Neither ship can be picked up in the game otherwise.
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# 17
12-23-2010, 11:57 AM
Well i guess we all know what is paying for their xmas bonus and party money now.
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# 18
12-23-2010, 11:57 AM
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Only the Excelsior is unattainable by any other means. The Galaxy-X can be gotten still through the referral system and all of the other refits can be bought with emblems or the free ship token.
Can you get the Galaxy X with Emblems? If not his point that all other ship are available with Emblems is incorrect. In fact only 1 ship in the game is available with Emblems: Nebula. Excelsior is not. NX is not. TOS Constitution is not. Galaxy X is not. And so on.
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# 19
12-23-2010, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Warguppy View Post
The fact that the other ships are available with emblems/tokens says it is deceptive. Making the other ships that way set a precedent of expectation that is not at all unreasonable in this case. So yes, it is deceptive.
You should take a course in logic. In lieu of that, here is an example of your faulty thought process:

If all ships are obtainable, but not all ships are free, then not all obtainable ships are free.

The T5 excelsior refit is not free for the feds. Neither is the galaxy-x (if you consider the cost of those you recruited to gain access to it.)

Sorry, dude. It was bound to happen to the klinks at some point. But hey, you just got a ship that's better than the galaxy-x in your c-store!
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# 20
12-23-2010, 11:59 AM
As I said before, previous practice regarding the Klingon ships recently released made the expectation these would be available that way as well a valid point and so yes it is deceptive. If one changes the rules at every turn it is deceptive whether they post those rules or not.
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