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# 11
01-05-2011, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimitris_Botonis
Why is the new Borg tech available only if you play in team missions (except the part given in "Assimilation")?

Essentially, it forces everyone to join a fleet.
Um, no, it doesn't. I've gotten two borg pieces so far simply doing pugs. And if someone is really so anti-social that they absolutely will not join even one team to get the borg items, then why the hell do they deserve to get them at all? Why are they even playing a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game in the first place? If they want to do everything by themselves, there are plenty of other games, even other Star Trek games, that are completely single player with no multiplayer aspect at all.
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# 12
01-05-2011, 08:42 PM
The STF's are junk they are the least fun content anywhere..i would sooner do patrols and that is SAYING something. The STF's are woefully overpowered even for groups, putting them relatively out of the territory of PUG groups for certain.

I just spent five hours in a pug group fo people who like me normally avoid the STFs like the plague but wanted the borg set so decided to give them a go again, well specifically Infected.. and what a monumental waste of time it turned out to be. It was Hero abuse, we all died in seconds about a hundred times, root spammed, hold spammed, DOT spammed... yeah let the good time rolls... NOT.

In the end we ended up running past most things just to get to the final room and even then with people faling in the water in the last room and the ridiculous damage borg do in the STF's especially proto drones that now seem able to one shot most party members for about 1k damage and then the borg queen on the final battle with her party wipe attack...

yeah, frankly i'd sooner apply my nads to a cheese grater and call it entertainment because it would be just about as painful.

Shocking content.

Heres on lifer who will be waiting for the "solo" versions or the borg set to come to the C store (inevitable) and lay down some hard cash for it as it is WAY less likely to give me an ulcer.
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# 13
01-06-2011, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NeoWolf View Post
... ridiculous damage borg do in the STF's especially proto drones that now seem able to one shot most party members for about 1k damage and then the borg queen on the final battle with her party wipe attack...
Ok, now you've got me curious. I've done Infected several times now but apparently you found the super-secret Korean level difficulty that takes years to master! Tell me how you unlocked it?!
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# 14
01-06-2011, 07:41 AM
Borg tech is already for everyone. Everyone can become Rear or Vice Admiral and play the STFs.

Not everyone cares to do. Me for example. At least, until now.

While we are at it, I would also like the Aegis set without crafting. I am bored of gathering samples, and I'd rather PvP or create missions via the Foundry.
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# 15
01-06-2011, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
Borg tech is already for everyone. Everyone can become Rear or Vice Admiral and play the STFs.

Not everyone cares to do. Me for example. At least, until now.

While we are at it, I would also like the Aegis set without crafting. I am bored of gathering samples, and I'd rather PvP or create missions via the Foundry.
You don't have to craft. A complete Aegis set is about 3 mil credits on the exchange at the moment. If you really want, you could earn those credits by doing PvP. :p
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# 16
01-06-2011, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Quetzaal
You don't have to craft. A complete Aegis set is about 3 mil credits on the exchange at the moment. If you really want, you could earn those credits by doing PvP. :p
But that would mean people would have to earn credits dosen't it?

No... All new accounts should get both the Aegis set and the Borg set from day one.

Of cause they should be at max possible level, so that all them pesky low level enemies are not a issue. At the same time add the dual heavy Very Rare MK XII Phaser cannons to ground slots.

God I love sarcasm.
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# 17
01-06-2011, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NeoWolf View Post
The STF's are junk they are the least fun content anywhere..i would sooner do patrols and that is SAYING something. The STF's are woefully overpowered even for groups, putting them relatively out of the territory of PUG groups for certain.

I just spent five hours in a pug group fo people who like me normally avoid the STFs like the plague but wanted the borg set so decided to give them a go again, well specifically Infected.. and what a monumental waste of time it turned out to be. It was Hero abuse, we all died in seconds about a hundred times, root spammed, hold spammed, DOT spammed... yeah let the good time rolls... NOT.

In the end we ended up running past most things just to get to the final room and even then with people faling in the water in the last room and the ridiculous damage borg do in the STF's especially proto drones that now seem able to one shot most party members for about 1k damage and then the borg queen on the final battle with her party wipe attack...

yeah, frankly i'd sooner apply my nads to a cheese grater and call it entertainment because it would be just about as painful.

Shocking content.

Heres on lifer who will be waiting for the "solo" versions or the borg set to come to the C store (inevitable) and lay down some hard cash for it as it is WAY less likely to give me an ulcer.
Hint: Dont stand with your back to the protodrones.. Avoid showing backside to Tactical drones too, for that matter.

Hint: Protodrones die really really easy,.

Hint: Those alcoves in the final room? They will do so the queen doesnt use her AOE (as long as some foo isnt spawning turrets/drones/escorts)

Hint: Drones and Infected drones in close proximity are to be avoided, they slow/root/hold/assimilate you.

Hint: Do *not* agro a whole room with 3 nodes in it, 4-6 Drones are easy to handle, 12-18 is not.
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Drones - Medical Drones - Protodrones - Infected drones : Kill at range, they have relatively low HP and they are quite annoying up close (Hint: Force domes are really useful here, as are turrets and generators they can "bad touch")

Tactical Drones - Heavy Tactical Drones - Elite Tactical Drones : Have someone melee them, they have quite large shieldpools, and their ranged attacks are powerful.

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Did I mention?

Dont let Proto or Tac drones flank you

Dont let Infected, Medical or regular drones touch you.. Bad touch is .. Bad touch

Infected is hillariously easy.
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# 18
01-06-2011, 08:13 AM
well you can't get orgasm without sarcasm....well you can but not without the "asam" part
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# 19
01-06-2011, 09:30 AM
I have to agree with the most here.

STO already has VERY little content that needs grouping, and although I did enjoy that, threads like this are the result. I remember how dificult it was to level in Lotro... mainly because it was hard to find players on the same level for the Multiplayer reqiering parts. (I was in a Guild but there were not many players on my level. Also THAT Game reqiered a balanced team, no chance here without a healer or tank, in sto I've already done ALL Stfs with completly unbalanced teams).

Dont get me wrong; i kind of like the basic STO way better, because you are not excludet because you play a class that is more popular and when you HAVE to team it is on the highest level wich means there is a better chance to FIND those people; I hatet it to invest more time in SEARCHING a team then playing with the team.
But the problem is that now dozents of other players simply are not capable of teamplay. (people have issues with the STFs for the same reasons they have issues in PvP...)
So this is an MMO and it is a good thing that SOME things requiere Teamply, because.... for marks of Valor I dont see the point in doing the STFs.

For the STFs themselfes: they are not that hard. I did infectet several times under an hour, including killing the "Queen" with the first trial.
Just yesterday I did Kithomer with a team wich was unknown to me completly, it worked.
Cure.... yes that mission is annoying I admit, but THAT I also already did with a random group and it worked. It is all possible.

I actually cant understand those people who reject anything involving other people in an MMO. That includes people who dont use things like Vent or teamspeak in general and wonder why some things do not work out by themself.
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# 20
01-06-2011, 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoWolf View Post
The STF's are junk they are the least fun content anywhere..i would sooner do patrols and that is SAYING something. The STF's are woefully overpowered even for groups, putting them relatively out of the territory of PUG groups for certain.

I just spent five hours in a pug group fo people who like me normally avoid the STFs like the plague but wanted the borg set so decided to give them a go again, well specifically Infected.. and what a monumental waste of time it turned out to be. It was Hero abuse, we all died in seconds about a hundred times, root spammed, hold spammed, DOT spammed... yeah let the good time rolls... NOT.

In the end we ended up running past most things just to get to the final room and even then with people faling in the water in the last room and the ridiculous damage borg do in the STF's especially proto drones that now seem able to one shot most party members for about 1k damage and then the borg queen on the final battle with her party wipe attack...

yeah, frankly i'd sooner apply my nads to a cheese grater and call it entertainment because it would be just about as painful.

Shocking content.

Heres on lifer who will be waiting for the "solo" versions or the borg set to come to the C store (inevitable) and lay down some hard cash for it as it is WAY less likely to give me an ulcer.
Wow, seriously I don't care how bad you are at this game if you cannot finish Infected then I don't know what to say. Are you even trying and i mean that seriously ? Do you have a plan ?

I have zero points in ground combat as did the other 4 members I did infected with and as long as you follow the guides to completing it, it was a piece of cake to complete.

Sorry but it seems to me you want the easy button and thats not gonna happen, there are some things you need to earn in game and the borg set is one of them.....

P.S. You might want to pay attention to MelineAaele post he/she is giving you valuable tips to beating The Infected....
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