Lt. Commander
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# 21
01-06-2011, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MelineAaele View Post
Hint: Dont stand with your back to the protodrones.. Avoid showing backside to Tactical drones too, for that matter.
We already know that, but they beam in behind you, if you run back they beam out and beam in behind you again etc.. it wouldnt be an issue in normal gameplay as in normal gameplay they don't do the silly damage they do in the STF's.

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Hint: Protodrones die really really easy,.
Indeed they do, but when your fighting a dozen borg and 3 or 4 proto drones its doesnt matter how easy they die they can still only shoot "SO" much at one time, while trying to run around in a limited space and by and large in the STFS irrespective of how tough the target is the priority is ALWAYS the interlink node as until that goes down nothing you shoot is actually dying and some rooms have multiple nodes, multiple mobs etc..

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Hint: Those alcoves in the final room? They will do so the queen doesnt use her AOE (as long as some foo isnt spawning turrets/drones/escorts)
Not convinced to be honest we put it to the test and she still did the AoE, but when you have uber queen and an endless supply of respawning other borg who can pretty much shoot you irrespective of where you are in the room it all seems a bit ONE sided.

We went through the queens room about a dozen times taking the force fields down and then trying to beat Ms Simmons but it just never happened it was 4 or 5 hours of total frustration and continual death for nothing and NONE of us had fun at all and were ONLY there because we wanted the borg set pieces.

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Hint: Drones and Infected drones in close proximity are to be avoided, they slow/root/hold/assimilate you.
That applies to ALL borg but with so many in such limited space and the occasional LAG cheat (i..e where you appear nowhere near them yet somehow they manage to hit you with the assimilation nodules anyway) its just overkill. You see a mob instantly your all spammed with root, they close the distance even while you mad spamming to break the root.. then they root you again, hit you with multiple nodules, which gives stacking slows to the point where movement is just not happening with multiple DoT's and even if you do manage to break free then the protos beam in and do thier spray shot or knockback shot that does between 400=600 damage per tick in three ticks which pretty much one shots anyone.

And again the folks doing it werent new, werent inexperienced, i for example have been in game since early beta, I own PVE, I have multiple VA's and LG etc.. its not like we don't know how to fight what were fighting. Its simply that what we are fighting are so unfairly buffed that its ceases to be fun and starts to be hero abuse.

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Hint: Do *not* agro a whole room with 3 nodes in it, 4-6 Drones are easy to handle, 12-18 is not.
again, not news and not what we were doing
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Tactical Drones - Heavy Tactical Drones - Elite Tactical Drones : Have someone melee them, they have quite large shieldpools, and their ranged attacks are powerful.
We had two folks with Batleths as I said we arent new, the problem wasnt the tactics the problem was the imbalance. The VA version is just totally one sided.
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# 22
01-06-2011, 10:17 AM
Try not to hate so much, you may get an infraction. The game is very similar to wow in that the game is easy but poor players make it hard, but you don't have to go on an "I'm better then you, and you are horrible" spiel.
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# 23
01-06-2011, 10:35 AM
1) why do you want the borg set? It is nice but not overpowered. In most builds/ships the aegis set is better. I ran a PvP match recently with one of my chars who doesn't have either and did just fine. No one NEEDs these sets. In fact the best use for the borg set is running STFs, so if you don't run STFs then it's even less usefull. If all you do is solo you can run with common gear and do missions easily.

2) there are only 2 sets. I am sure cryptic will release more as time goes on. Each new set will probably be attainable through various means. Perhaps a set from PvP, maybe another for diplomacy etc. Give it time the next set may be the reward for the part of the game you enjoy.
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# 24
01-06-2011, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by N_Danger
As a casual player- No

People who do the STF's and complete them should be rewarded. With special stuff. Because they worked hard for them.
This. I wanted the Borg Engines, so I did Infected. Now I have the Borg Engines. I am happy.

If you want Borg gear, do what is necessary to get the Borg gear. Don't beg for freebies.
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# 25
01-06-2011, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Acceleron
Try not to hate so much, you may get an infraction. The game is very similar to wow in that the game is easy but poor players make it hard, but you don't have to go on an "I'm better then you, and you are horrible" spiel.
Interesting, especially as I didn't do that once. So go troll somewhere else little fella
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# 26
01-06-2011, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by phunkmaster3k
1) why do you want the borg set? It is nice but not overpowered. In most builds/ships the aegis set is better. I ran a PvP match recently with one of my chars who doesn't have either and did just fine. No one NEEDs these sets. In fact the best use for the borg set is running STFs, so if you don't run STFs then it's even less usefull. If all you do is solo you can run with common gear and do missions easily.

2) there are only 2 sets. I am sure cryptic will release more as time goes on. Each new set will probably be attainable through various means. Perhaps a set from PvP, maybe another for diplomacy etc. Give it time the next set may be the reward for the part of the game you enjoy.

I couldn't speak to the rest of our group, but I personally wanted the borg set for the "look" I was only trying to get it on my freed borg captain, beyond that i've gone the AEGIs route with my other VA's. So for me at least it was very much for the theme of the look, the visual fx etc..
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# 27
01-06-2011, 11:19 AM
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Interesting, especially as I didn't do that once. So go troll somewhere else little fella
Wasn't directed at you, was directed at Dakma. But calling someone a troll will still get ya an infraction :p
I was in the wrong for not quoting him, but you need to relax a little.

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Wow, seriously I don't care how bad you are at this game if you cannot finish Infected then I don't know what to say. Are you even trying and i mean that seriously ? Do you have a plan ?

I have zero points in ground combat as did the other 4 members I did infected with and as long as you follow the guides to completing it, it was a piece of cake to complete.

Sorry but it seems to me you want the easy button and thats not gonna happen, there are some things you need to earn in game and the borg set is one of them.....

P.S. You might want to pay attention to MelineAaele post he/she is giving you valuable tips to beating The Infected....
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# 28
01-06-2011, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Acceleron
Wasn't directed at you, was directed at Dakma. But calling someone a troll will still get ya an infraction :p
I was in the wrong for not quoting him, but you need to relax a little.
you may want to pay attention to whose post you post after in future especially as you say without quoting who you are responding to.

You certainly seem to have a bee in your bonnet about infractions too, fortunately they aren't petty on these forums and dont give infractions for silly, pointless things so i wouldn't worry yourself about it.
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# 29
01-06-2011, 11:52 AM
Just trying to be helpful by passing my lesson learned along, I got an infraction for calling on an obvious troll. Up to you if you want to listen or not. And trust me, the forum mods have little patience when compared to other mmo forum mods.

I think that they are just getting back up to speed after their winter holiday...I'm wondering how many infractions/bans are about to be dished out

Edit: we were only 2 mins apart on the post, its still my bad for not quoting.
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# 30
01-06-2011, 04:08 PM
The Borg are supposed to be hard.

Remember your first play through? When you loaded up the game and the first thing you see is that you're in a version of Ten forward.. And then you see the Borg out the window & you're like "Oh **** no.."

But then you find out there's something "weird" about these Borg, so you forgive them for being so weak..

Then, when you get to Rear Admiral, and you get permission to transwarp to Gamma Orionis, and you know you're about to face the collective, about to deal with the full-on, un-weird, bad-*** Borg you remember, and you're excited, but just the tiniest bit scared too...

And then you one-shot a Sphere.. And you're disappointed all over again.

I want the Borg to be hard, and I want the rewards for taking them on to be exclusive and considerably better than than run-of-the-mill gear.

It's available in-game, you too can get it, you just have to learn to play on a team and vs the Borg to get it.

I would even say they (the Borg, not the STFs) should be harder. Fights with Borg in missions shouldn't be the standard groups we have now, but singular far more powerful versions of Probes, Spheres, Patrol cubes, and Tactical cubes.

"Defend the Gamma Orionis Sector Block" is a joke in my eyes. If we must have a DSE in Gamma Orionis, it should be vs a single, humongous Cube, 8 times the mass of the "normal" cubes we see, more like the cubes from Wolf 359 or the Battle of Sector 001. With five scripts, four independent targeting scripts (one to each side of the Cube) capable of having the one Cube target multiple ships at the same time, and a piloting script to determine her coarse.

We should be fighting the Crystalline Cube, not the hordes o' Borg balloons (pop easy and often).
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