See I learned my lesson long ago with City of Heroes. I would do exactly what you are doing and thpught I was pretty thrifty and smart. Until I looked back 4 years after launch and saw that even missing over a years worth of paid sub time through that 4 years I still managed to spend 300+ usd on sub fees. I knew as soon as CO had the LT option I would get it for that game and Sto. Sadly I only got my money worth half the time thus far. Luckily, CO's minimum price to pay finally matches the product being offered for the last 16 months.

So far STO, Dan and Capnlogan an the team have done TONS to rebuild my opinion of Cryptic after the Ropering CO got that destroyed my faith in a company I financially invested in for much of this century. They continue everyday to raise the bar.

Sadly, Stormshade attempting to defend CO on their forum did the exact opposite if you compare his list of things COs team has done in 16 months vs what STOs team did in less than 12...It is something like half or fewer the accomplishments when compared to STOs similar list...

Cryptic has not come out to say they are considering STO for F2P, evaluate CO, yes, but has not said considered. dStahl has even said that F2P isn't even in the plans. As was said, though, LT members would have permanent "Gold" status, and 400 cryptic points a month, which are the benefits of CO's LTM's.

For those who already purchased LT at the full price, all it amounts to is about 4 months more to have the game pay for itself at $15 a month.

What exactly did Cryptic do to pre-order LTS customers? I was one, and I don't remember them doing anything to me. I made a decision based on several factors. Yes, the game was sub-par at launch. When I canceled my LTS I thought there was no way the game would ever be worth $14.99 a month or have enough content for 16 months of play time.

The game looks like it is headed in the right direction now. Cryptic did what any good company does when they launch a crappy product and shook up the team leadership.

The game still needs work in many of the areas you indicated, and I think it will get it.

From a convenience perspective, I kind of miss knowing I have the LTS.

The US bias in this game astonishes me. Couldn't they have put the discounted price in £ (UK Pounds) and Euro's?

Not all of us who play this game live in America and some of us who don't live in America would still consider buying a life time subscription.

Now if the cost in pounds is accurate to the exchange rate then that's £150, which is roughly ($240) which I'll likely pay.

If it is 20% off the existing price, which is currently £200, then the discounted UK price is £180. While a dscount is a discount I'm not playing that. Saving only £20 just doesn't seem worth it.

I would really appreciate it if a Mod or Dev or someone offical could confirm.

Thanks.

You guys are killing me...

LTS sale while i still have 6 subbed months on my account?

what to do ...what to do...

gnaaah... can you at least convert the subbed time left on my acc into C-Points?

20% of 200 is 40. So you're saving 40 quid not 20.

Well, I already purchased a LT sub....I had to either do another preset monthly sub or something back around Christmas...I suppose I should have figured it would go on sale after I purchased it...lol...ANyway, so far I cannot complain about it too much...I just wish that I had gotten a character slot with my purchase...as the LT sub perks are interesting but I feel it could be more for the price we are paying....it's just a thought, not a criticism...

Any thoughts from a dev on what new LT rewards they are thinking of throwing out there since people will be getting Captain's table in a couple of months?

I didn't realise at first the discount was the same as the preorder LTS. I agree that this is the best outcome so that way preorder lifers don't feel they've lost out paying for an unreleased game and have 1 year already paid for but those choosing to LTS now have the option to get a discount. Those that have purchased during the higher price will be the biggest losers with the abdolute biggest losers being those that just got LTS. Unfortunately for those that have just got LTS and missed out on the discount, I'm not sure what Cryptic can do about it. If they did backtrack and refund those people the difference, how far would they go back? a day? a week? No matter how far they go back you'll probably find someone who's just missed out.

I would say thought if I didn't have LTS I'd have waitied until nearly the last moment for any deals especially with STO's first anniversary coming up even as late was 2nd Feb. Cryptic have in the past done discounts including a preLTS so if there was any time for them to do a discounted LTS, anniversaries would be the time to do it. They've given us advanced warning which is nice but there is a limit to how advanced it can be or have an advanced notice of an advanced notice. I think it will be down to Cryptic's good will if they did refund anyone.

I was goning to ask about future LTS perks :p. I don't mind if they do or not (of course it would be nice fto have more fluff they did mention ongonig LTS perks) but I'd rather have more stuff that benefits everyone.

I saw that too and was horrified at that response! Cryptic seems very flavor of the month in terms of development. If Neverwinter takes off, we should really be concerned. And what was that paid Expansion drama?

You know they're an American company, right? If not, sit down and brace yourself, I've got something to tell you...