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Originally Posted by Rokesmith View Post
All new tech in an old hard candy shell.

If you don't want to fly one Don't. Easy as that. There is no need to force everyone to share your idea of what should and shouldn't be in game. If we got rid of everything anyone wanted gone - there would be nothing left.
While this comment is directed at the OP, Rokesmith's comment was so eloquent I had to give it the QFT treatment.

I resisted the Excelsior for a while, to be honest I don't like the look of the Exie as much as I like the Connie, and I always viewed it as a rival of the Constitution, so resisting it was not hard for me. Still I had a itch to see what all the fuss about the Exie was for and picked one up. If you are a tac/cruiser hybrid the Exie is nigh near the ship par excellence, and as Rokesmith put it just because it is a hundred year old design does not mean that it is a hundred year old hull.

If you do not mind me quoting Memory Alpha's article about the Excelsior class...

"By the early 24th century, Excelsior-class vessels were normally equipped with dilithium recompositing and recrystallization technology. The theta-matrix compositor of the time, which later became outdated, was upgraded by the time the Galaxy-class was introduced. This new recrystallization process was ten times more efficient than that of the Excelsior-class. (TNG: "Family")

The Excelsior-class also used micro-power relays in its warp core matrix compositor. (DS9: "For the Uniform") "

"Details of this class would be retained well into the 31st century, when Captain Jonathan Archer and Lieutenant Malcolm Reed viewed schematics on the class in the 22nd century while accessing the database belonging to temporal agent Daniels. (ENT: "Shockwave") "

Considering that it served in front line capacity till the end of the 24th century in canon and is still referenced in the 31st century again in canon implies that it is deserving of it's status in STO.

Did you know that the Excelsior's dedication plaque is enscribed, "No matter where you go, there you are." a quote lifted from Buckaroo Banzai? Ah she just grew on me a little bit more.

Oh and most definately the Akira should be in end game.
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# 12
02-04-2011, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Azurian View Post
Boy lots of people want the Akira being upgraded. :p


IMHO, if Cryptic gives her a Tier 5 refit, I would like to see her more along the lines of a Tactical Cruiser like she supposed to be cannonically. More Cruiser than Escort, but less tanky than the Excelsior-R.

Perhaps like:

(1) LTC Tactical Stations
(1) LT Tactical Stations
(1) LTC Engineering
(1) LT Engineering

(1) LT Science

4 Fore / 3 Aft
Turn Rate = 13
Special Ability = Photon Torpedo Barrage (Torpedo Spread 3).
I actually suggested something similar to this in another thread as an option, though not specifically in reference to the Akira, though that was brought up in response to it.

This was actually the write-up...

(Tier 5-Style Stats)

Frigate/Patrol Ship
Hull: 35,000
Standard Shields: 4,750
Weapons: 4/4
Crew: 500
Bridge Officers:
Commander - None
Lt.Commander - 1 Engineering, 1 Tactical
Lieutenant - 1 Engineering, 1 Tactical, 1 Science
Ensign - None
Device Slots:3
Consoles:
Engineering - 4
Tactical - 4
Science - 1
Turn Rate: 13
Impulse Modifier: 0.20
Inertia rating: 50
Power Bonuses:
+5 Shields
+5 Weapons
+5 Engines
+0 Aux
No Cannon Use

General idea here being a fast attack beam-boat, somewhere between a Cruiser and an Escort in most respects. While lacking any Commander level BOff abilities it concentrates on having a large amount of moderately powerful Engineering and Tactical abilities to give it decent firepower and staying power.
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# 13
02-04-2011, 12:57 AM
Yes please to the OP request of this thread. As you can see by my current avatar, I love the Akira class and I think it's sexy.
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# 14
02-04-2011, 02:19 AM
I guess you will get your refit Akira when I get my T5 Constitution/Excalibur hybrid.

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Originally Posted by dstahl View Post
While we do not currently intend to add specific lower tier refits into the ship requisition stores, a future goal of the crafting system is to allow players to outfit and refit their own starships. Under that new system, I would hope that you could take a Miranda class ship and using a budget, refit the class to be something more appropriate to modern times. We're a ways off from having details on this type of feature, but I can say we want to see refits in the future.
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# 15
02-04-2011, 03:06 AM
At Commander Level my Sci and Tac Captains fly Akiras and my Engineer Captain flies an Excelsior. I cry inside when I have to advance away from my Akira.

I was leery at first of the Excelsior since I never liked it that much, but seeing it in action has made me fall in love with the more classic lines. I also like the transwarp drive

I see nothing wrong with beefing up an Akira to Tier 5, but please don't bag on the Excelsior. It's a solid ship and has a lot of style.
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# 16
02-04-2011, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Azurian View Post
Boy lots of people want the Akira being upgraded. :p


IMHO, if Cryptic gives her a Tier 5 refit, I would like to see her more along the lines of a Tactical Cruiser like she supposed to be cannonically. More Cruiser than Escort, but less tanky than the Excelsior-R.

Perhaps like:

(1) LTC Tactical Stations
(1) LT Tactical Stations
(1) LTC Engineering
(1) LT Engineering

(1) LT Science

4 Fore / 3 Aft
Turn Rate = 13
Special Ability = Photon Torpedo Barrage (Torpedo Spread 3).
me actually like this.
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# 17
02-04-2011, 03:51 AM
"All new tech in a candy" shell is crap logic. Retrofits don't work that way and it's an over simplification. You can't fit any tech in any other tech. If you ever did it would likely cost significantly more resources then it should. Try fitting a jet engine in a biplane. Same difference.
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# 18
02-04-2011, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by USS Parallax
"All new tech in a candy" shell is crap logic. Retrofits don't work that way and it's an over simplification. You can't fit any tech in any other tech. If you ever did it would likely cost significantly more resources then it should. Try fitting a jet engine in a biplane. Same difference.
Bad comparison. Both use completely different types of propulsion. Constitution, Excelsior, Galaxy and Sovereign all have a matter/anti-matter reactor with a dilithium crystal chamber and two warp nacelles that can easily be swapped out like the refit of the Constitution showed.
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# 19
02-04-2011, 04:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by USS Parallax
"All new tech in a candy" shell is crap logic. Retrofits don't work that way and it's an over simplification. You can't fit any tech in any other tech. If you ever did it would likely cost significantly more resources then it should. Try fitting a jet engine in a biplane. Same difference.
O rly?

Polikarpov I-153PVRD ramjet
In the summer 1939 an engineer I.Merkulov offered the use of ramjet (PVRD) as the additional power installation for increase of maximum speed of fighters with piston engines. The air petrol from a main tank was poroposecl to be used as fuel. The first engine, that received a designation DM-1, passed bench tests in the second half of 1939. In September more powerful engines DM-2 were made, their length was 1500 mm, maximum diameter 400 mm, diameter of the output nozzle 300 mm. The weight of each engine together with fastening was only 62 Ib. In September 1940 DM-2 were mounted on 1-153 fighter resulting in a gain of speed of 18.6 mph. In October same year DM-4 engines were tested on Tchaika. At turning on of DM-4 the speed of a plane was increased by 25-31 mph. In total 74 test flights were completed using DM-2 and DM-4 engines." (aviapress)

http://www.aviapress.com/book/oth/oth072_3.jpg

I guess you should reading a history book or something before trying to make comments out of your behind lol
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# 20
02-04-2011, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by OttoVonCat View Post
O rly?

Polikarpov I-153PVRD ramjet
In the summer 1939 an engineer I.Merkulov offered the use of ramjet (PVRD) as the additional power installation for increase of maximum speed of fighters with piston engines. The air petrol from a main tank was poroposecl to be used as fuel. The first engine, that received a designation DM-1, passed bench tests in the second half of 1939. In September more powerful engines DM-2 were made, their length was 1500 mm, maximum diameter 400 mm, diameter of the output nozzle 300 mm. The weight of each engine together with fastening was only 62 Ib. In September 1940 DM-2 were mounted on 1-153 fighter resulting in a gain of speed of 18.6 mph. In October same year DM-4 engines were tested on Tchaika. At turning on of DM-4 the speed of a plane was increased by 25-31 mph. In total 74 test flights were completed using DM-2 and DM-4 engines." (aviapress)

http://www.aviapress.com/book/oth/oth072_3.jpg

I guess you should reading a history book or something before trying to make comments out of your behind lol
This was such ownage even I had to say something *laugh*. Well played my good man, well played.
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