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# 1 Why no Enterprise class?
02-04-2011, 12:04 AM
Of course the main ship in any of the main Trek shows and films is called USS Enterprise, but over the course of 300 years, there really hasn't been an Enterprise class per se! There is some small debate that the refit Constitution was nick named the Enterprise class (as it should have been since it really was a whole new ship) but there has not been really a true Enterprise class! Now, perhaps with this Enterprise-F contest going on, that class could be called the Enterprise class?
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# 2
02-04-2011, 12:15 AM
There's also the argument that the NX class should have been the Enterprise class since the Enterprise was the 1st ship of the class (even though it wasn't a Federation starship, but thats certainly on a tangent we needn't go down)

I think mostly its to keep away from the confusion.

Also, I could think of a logistical reason for it: The first ship of any class is usually a prototype vessel, with new technology and a new "design" that isn't tested. Such a ship usually remains a testbed for a long time.

The Enterprise is the de-facto flagship, so they would reserve that name for one of the 1st "Production models" as it were. And a class name would be decided long before Starfleet might commit to using this ship as their flagship, because they need to test it first.
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# 3
02-04-2011, 12:25 AM
That is true. That is why the Refit Constitution SHOULD have been the Enterprise class. (and to avoid confusion, tho the Admiral did say she was "30 years old" in TSFS) It seemed she was the first of the refits and had to have a shake-down cruise to work the bugs out of her.
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# 4
02-04-2011, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Commodore_Rook View Post
Of course the main ship in any of the main Trek shows and films is called USS Enterprise, but over the course of 300 years, there really hasn't been an Enterprise class per se! There is some small debate that the refit Constitution was nick named the Enterprise class (as it should have been since it really was a whole new ship) but there has not been really a true Enterprise class! Now, perhaps with this Enterprise-F contest going on, that class could be called the Enterprise class?
The simple fact is that the class is always named after its first ship, or vice versa... or both. Generally, they're developed together.

The Enterprise is the flagship of the Federation. Sure, you want it to be one of the most advanced ships you have fielded... but you don't want it to be the first ship of a failed ship line.

That's why other ships come first.

Of course, you can take solace in the fact that the USS Enterprise-B was Excelsior Class, Enterprise subtype, which was the subtype all Excelsiors were upgraded to afterwards, up until the Lakota subtype(which had a production run of ONE).
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# 5
02-04-2011, 12:55 AM
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That is true. That is why the Refit Constitution SHOULD have been the Enterprise class. (and to avoid confusion, tho the Admiral did say she was "30 years old" in TSFS) It seemed she was the first of the refits and had to have a shake-down cruise to work the bugs out of her.
Yes, but the core class of the ship was still the Constitution class. It wasn't designed from the ground up, it was simply given an extensive overhaul to bring it in line with technological developments that occurred between the end of Kirk's command and the beginning of Decker's. If you consider the USS Missouri, that ship was refitted god knows how many times in its 50 year service history, but it was still an Iowa class battleship. The Constitution -> Constitution refit is the same deal.

As for the shakedown cruise, that's standard procedure for any ship coming out of drydock after some major work (or for new ships). The work crews might've followed the blueprints to the letter, but there's still going to be some problems that need to be solved before a ship can go out on assignments. I bet if we'd flashed forward a few months after the end of Nemesis, we'd see Picard taking the Enterprise out for a second shakedown to make sure everything was working after he donated the front half of the ship to the Remans.
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# 6
02-04-2011, 01:01 AM
if you read any of the technical manuals the motion picture refit was actually called the Enterprise Class

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars...hip-design.php
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02-04-2011, 01:01 AM
LOL "donated"!
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# 8
02-04-2011, 01:03 AM
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if you read any of the technical manuals the motion picture refit was actually called the Enterprise Class

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars...hip-design.php
I know, that is where the confusion comes in. I hear it both ways. I wish we could get a ruling from Okada on his one. Maybe I'll ask this over on the Trek BBS board where he actually does post!
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# 9
02-04-2011, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Awarkle View Post
if you read any of the technical manuals the motion picture refit was actually called the Enterprise Class

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars...hip-design.php
He mentioned it in the 2nd line of the OP..

Fact is, Tech Manuals aren't canon, so when they later showed a plaque that said "Constitution Refit" on it, it invalidated what the tech manual said (happens a lot) and was later "explained away" that the class of Simulator was "Enterprise" and not a simulator of "Enterprise class"


Thus, there is contention about the proper name of the Movie Enterprise, but officially. its the Constitution Refit,
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# 10
02-04-2011, 01:24 AM
If a ship has the "Enterprise" class, it means the "Enterprise" class will at some point be some obsolete garbage can. That doesn't feel right.

I'd say that is something that the story-tellers don't want to risk. Also, there might be extreme expectations of a series or movie about an Enterprise of the Enterprise class. It has to be the bestest of the best, otherwise everyone will say "now they have finally ruined the entire franchise."
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