Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Currently I have:

*Windows 98SE -- Just kidding, Windows 7 x64
*4GB RAM
*i5 2.66GHz CPU
*Single 20" widescreen monitor
*Antec EarthWatts EA500 500W PSU
*ATI Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16

What I want to upgrade is the graphics card; the one I have now runs Star Trek Online fine but I'd like to play the game on higher settings without hickups.

I'm looking at these two cards:
*MSI N460GTX Hawk GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16
*MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16

I can't see a big difference between the two spec wise, but am looking for your advice on that. The difference in the specifications that stand out to me is that the power requirements/connections.

The 460 says: 450W PSU, 6-pin & 6-pin
The 560 says: 500W PSU, Two 6-pin

What's the difference between the connections and will my PSU be fine? I'm assuming that the connections will be fine according to this image for the PSU.
Lt. Commander
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# 2 Nvidia:)
02-04-2011, 07:38 AM
Hm , lets see , I'am not sure about your PSU , those cards can eat a lot of energy , just go to tomshardware site and check the reviews. Both cards are nice cards , and i can play at 1080p with the smallest of the new DX11 nvidia GT430 with out hicups ( allthow not at maximum details but i get 40-50 FpS). The 560 Ti is a new model so if you dont have problem with the cash go for it.


Hope i helped you.
Lt. Commander
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# 3
02-04-2011, 07:54 AM
Depends on how much you wish to spend the 460 is great "bang for buck" but the 560 is looking very nice.


Here is a review of the 560 vs others > http://www.anandtech.com/show/4135/n...the-250-market

I have the 460 Hawk and its a great card but the 560 has more Stream Processors 384 vs 336. Core/shader/memory clocks are faster at standard spec. We know the 460 is a over clockers card and the 560 looks that way as well.

http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N560G...n-Edition.html

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...i-1gb-review/1

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-n5...er-ii-review/1

Prices in the UK

http://www.scan.co.uk/Shop/Computer-...8-336-Cores%29

http://www.scan.co.uk/Shop/Computer-...28384-Cores%29

http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Componen...nVIDIA-GTX-560


If it was me I would wait a little bit to see how the market place changes 560 vs 460 their may be some nice price drops


MSI has a great user to user forum > http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php I've used it many times.

As for your psu the connectors are fine but with my hawk I got a 6 pin PCI-E converter (included but never used) > https://img.escrow.alibaba.com/order.../286531958.jpg

560 only uses a little more power and may be OK with your current PSU (TDP 160w vs 180w) but have a look around at reviews and ask on the forums. If you do need to upgrade the PSU 650TX / 750TX / 850 TX (single 12v rail ) corsair range are great PSU's. I've still got my old Antec's but new PSU's it corsair all the way for me (5-7 year warranty).

I got a Digital Multimeter (reading PSU DC rails etc) and Plug-In Power and Energy Monitor (from wall socket to PSU input). Idle (with OC) I use 135-140 W, gaming can be 300 + depending on the game and if I'm multitasking (400+)


http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...ry&ndns_id=195

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...=Story&reid=73


I hope your happy when you get your new card, 460 or 560 both a great at the right price. Good luck
Lt. Commander
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# 4
02-04-2011, 01:43 PM
if i were you i'd be lookin to just get a new psu, 650W and get a 580, since by now the prices will be a bit cheaper than when it first came out this way you get the best performance avaliable on nvidia atm is you got the cash. but overall the 560 TI is a better option of the two when it comes to performance if your gonna be running at stock clocks, either way its always good to upgrade the psu to the 600-650W since that will leave you room to play with.
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# 5
02-14-2011, 05:41 AM
Just an update, I ended up purchasing the Nvidia 560Ti and kept my current 500W PSU and it works great. The graphics are much, much better, I can run the game at max (I did have to turn down the max lights & shadows per object) with Dynamic lighting and that really makes a difference.

The animations of firing phasers, torps, etc are so smooth now.
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# 6
02-20-2011, 11:26 PM
I have nothing but good to say about the entire GTX 500 series.
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# 7
03-15-2011, 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JKOgden View Post
Just an update, I ended up purchasing the Nvidia 560Ti and kept my current 500W PSU and it works great. The graphics are much, much better, I can run the game at max (I did have to turn down the max lights & shadows per object) with Dynamic lighting and that really makes a difference.

The animations of firing phasers, torps, etc are so smooth now.

Which brand and model did you end up with in the end ?

Good to see your happy with the upgrade
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# 8
03-16-2011, 05:10 AM
This is the full model name:
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card.
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