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# 21
02-22-2011, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FurQue
No, DBB's have not been nerfed at all, they are still doing what they have always done, they still rock with BO3.

FAW has been fixed however, as it scaled massivley incorrectly with DBB's.
Yes, yes.. It was fixed the wrong way.. Now the only way to fix it, is to bring HYT and CRF down to match.
(just messing with you - obviously Im of the opinion FAW or DBBs should be brought up, instead of torps/cannons/CRF/HYT being brought down )
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# 22
02-22-2011, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MelineAaele View Post
Overall effectiveness of DBBs on a escort have been nerfed.. From being useful, they are now useless.

Next, let us then nerf Torps, and then follow up with cannons
yes....since being able to pimp smack someone for 64 thousand with bo3 is so useless.

Transphasics, and plas need buffs.

Especially the former. Torps are much more difficult to use than cannons (and I've run every kind of torp), and DBB is.

Plasma torps need to Explode when they are taken out. That way they can at least in theory still hurt something that gets close enough. That or their speed needs to be increased significantly.
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# 23
02-22-2011, 07:44 AM
seen many escorts running FAW lately?

lol, thought not...
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# 24
02-22-2011, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MelineAaele View Post
Yes, yes.. It was fixed the wrong way.. Now the only way to fix it, is to bring HYT and CRF down to match.
(just messing with you - obviously Im of the opinion FAW or DBBs should be brought up, instead of torps/cannons/CRF/HYT being brought down )
Thereby reintroducing the imbalance that FAW was bringing? Yeah great move that would be, heres my tail, if I can only run faster I'd be able to catch it.

Just give the higher spec'd/skilled torps a buff.
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# 25
02-22-2011, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mavairo
yes....since being able to pimp smack someone for 64 thousand with bo3 is so useless.
A lttle bit, as crits of this size happens only in one of 1000 fired shots...
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# 26
02-22-2011, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dassem_Ultor
seen many escorts running FAW lately?

lol, thought not...
FAW is a spam killer, and it was only ever designed to be a spam killer, it was not supposed to give you +90% extra damage against a single target.

1v1's may just be viable again.
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# 27
02-22-2011, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dassem_Ultor
A lttle bit, as crits of this size happens only in one of 1000 fired shots...
I had the following in a 15 minute cap and hold last night.

64k, 42k, 54k, 38k, 32k, 28k, 40k. The lowest bo3 I saw was 8k after I punched down a shield.

Useless? I think not.

Especially when you compare it to the damage range of a torp. And considering that BO3 can do crap tons of damage at times even with a partial shield in the way it's still > torps for cruiser hunting in particular. Torps are still my preferred weapon, since they tend to do much better versus speedier targets.

PS my BOs are using Tetryon. Not even the most optimal energy type for BO. (AP is and those crits can smack for 80-85k)
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# 28
02-22-2011, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FurQue
FAW is a spam killer, and it was only ever designed to be a spam killer, it was not supposed to give you +90% extra damage against a single target.

1v1's may just be viable again.
No, it's not a spam killer. At least not alone. Because if it was, there is no point at all in using Beam Fire At Will II or III.
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# 29
02-22-2011, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
No, it's not a spam killer. At least not alone. Because if it was, there is no point at all in using Beam Fire At Will II or III.
Well, I disagree, but this thread is about torps, and I'm sorry for derailing it.

Back on topic, transphasics need some love.
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# 30
02-22-2011, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mavairo
yes....since being able to pimp smack someone for 64 thousand with bo3 is so useless.

Transphasics, and plas need buffs.

Especially the former. Torps are much more difficult to use than cannons (and I've run every kind of torp), and DBB is.

Plasma torps need to Explode when they are taken out. That way they can at least in theory still hurt something that gets close enough. That or their speed needs to be increased significantly.
DBBs as in multiple of them.. The BOL3 setup is still a cannon setup, you use 1 DBB, thats it. 3 or 4 DBBs are a waste, you get much more consistent damage using cannons.

Same goes for Torp Spread.. Almost noone uses it, because its.. Useless. Transphasics or Chroniton? Useless, almost noone uses them.

Agree with the Plasma Torp, only Id add Tricobalt devices as well.
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