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# 11
02-26-2011, 05:04 PM
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And we want to be careful not to imply that the Vulcan ships are part of Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic fleet, don't we? After all, their flagship commercial suborbital is to be the V.S.S. Enterprise--a "Virgin Space Ship"--followed by the V.S.S. Voyager.
Too true, we certainly don't want to mix the two up and end up with all the bad "Virgin" jokes online.

I agree with the majority USS is a federation designation and vulcan ships are part of that federation so there is no problem with USS.
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# 12
02-26-2011, 05:05 PM
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Can we get the U.S.S. removed from the Vulcan Science vessels and replaced with V.S.S. or somthing just don't seem like they should have the U.S.S. name.
No. Here's why: the lore is that the Vulcans gave these to starfleet and they were recommissioned. You're no longer flying a ship under the local sovereignty of the Vulcans - you're flying it for the Federation proper.
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# 13
02-26-2011, 06:24 PM
I say they can remove the USS from it when they make it exclusive to T-1 and incapable of being used by anyone who isn't a Vulcan, and can't leave the Vulcan sector.

However, since they through canon out the cargo bay doors already with the Vulcan Science Vessel, I don't think that having the USS prefix is the worst thing in the world.
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# 14
02-26-2011, 06:29 PM
These lore destroying ships, as horrible as they are in every imaginable way, should keep the USS prefix. It's a STARFLEET commissioned ship.
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# 15
02-27-2011, 09:21 AM
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No. Here's why: the lore is that the Vulcans gave these to starfleet and they were recommissioned. You're no longer flying a ship under the local sovereignty of the Vulcans - you're flying it for the Federation proper.
Yes while I can appreciate this statement, personally I would remove the U.S.S. all together since I find no reference to a Vulcan ship designated as U.S.S. "Vulcan Ship."

The Jellyfish was a spacecraft that was created by the United Federation of Planets in the late 24th century. The design of this starship was made by Geordi La Forge in conjunction with the Daystrom Institute as well as the Vulcan Science Academy at some point in the 2380's. The ship was created with the intention of being used as part of scientific as well as exploration missions. Starfleet was working with the creators of the ship in order to determine which of the ship systems were capable of being adapted for use by the Federation. (ST website: The Path to 2409) http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Jellyfish
The Jellyfish was a 24th century starship commissioned by the Vulcan Science Academy in 2387. The ship was outfitted for the transport of red matter. http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Jellyfish_(ship)

This ship, designed by starfleet became a Vulcan Science Acadamy vessel. There is no note of a U.S.S. designation. Granted that the D'Kyr is from the 22nd Century and a recommision by the UFP with designation of U.S.S. is quite probable to me it is just out of place. I imagine this is probably tied into ship names and connot be removed anyhow.
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02-27-2011, 09:29 AM
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Yes while I can appreciate this statement, personally I would remove the U.S.S. all together since I find no reference to a Vulcan ship designated as U.S.S. "Vulcan Ship."

The Jellyfish was a spacecraft that was created by the United Federation of Planets in the late 24th century. The design of this starship was made by Geordi La Forge in conjunction with the Daystrom Institute as well as the Vulcan Science Academy at some point in the 2380's. The ship was created with the intention of being used as part of scientific as well as exploration missions. Starfleet was working with the creators of the ship in order to determine which of the ship systems were capable of being adapted for use by the Federation. (ST website: The Path to 2409) http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Jellyfish
The Jellyfish was a 24th century starship commissioned by the Vulcan Science Academy in 2387. The ship was outfitted for the transport of red matter. http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Jellyfish_(ship)

This ship, designed by starfleet became a Vulcan Science Acadamy vessel. There is no note of a U.S.S. designation. Granted that the D'Kyr is from the 22nd Century and a recommision by the UFP with designation of U.S.S. is quite probable to me it is just out of place. I imagine this is probably tied into ship names and connot be removed anyhow.
I am absolutely opposed to this. In fact, I feel the ship needs to be *less* un-Starfleet. Adding in the correct Starfleet Grey hull colour would help with this.

We play Starfleet officers, not Vulcan police.
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# 17
02-27-2011, 09:35 AM
If anything, make it "S.S" and drop the "U". That is the standard civilian designator, atleast for Earth vessels.

And while we are asking, also drop the USS for shuttlecraft!
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02-27-2011, 10:08 AM
U.S.S. Raven = Civilian Ship
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# 19
02-27-2011, 10:33 AM
Does the prefix USS belong? Yes.

It may be a Vulcan Ship, but YOU are a Starfleet Captain. The D'Kyr may be a Vulcan ship, but it IS recommissioned as a Starfleet Vessel.

Anyone using real world logic to argue against, is just wasting your time.

But even though this is how it is, can we have the USS dropped from the D'Kyr? Sure, why not? It is a game and the NX prefix is available.

Why did I mention earlier that you can't argue real world logic for being against having the USS Prefix? Because of said NX Prefix.

If you argue that this show said X, or this book stated Y then it must equal Z, then we can't have everyone using the prefix NX either.

No way would Starfleet have an entire fleet of experimental ships as their current workforce. Yet, it is possible to have this in the game.




USS Raven was a civilian ship, but it was also a Federation Registered science vessel that BOTH Starfleet and Civilians used. http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Raven_type

Shuttlecraft should drop the USS prefix however, they are simply named "Shuttlecraft (name)" or "Runabout (name)"





Therefore to summarize, if we decide to drop the USS from the D'Kyr, then we can. But NOT because this said this, or that stated that. If we go that route, and use that term of logic, then by all means, the NX prefix should be up on the cutting block as well.
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# 20
02-27-2011, 10:59 AM
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Therefore to summarize, if we decide to drop the USS from the D'Kyr, then we can. But NOT because this said this, or that stated that. If we go that route, and use that term of logic, then by all means, the NX prefix should be up on the cutting block as well.
I've not seen very many people with NX registries compared to NCC registries. The idea that there is a whole fleet of them then becomes a bit redundant.
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