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# 11
02-28-2011, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SP3CTREnyc
God left this forum a long time ago...
But maybe he will resub sometimes

I always thought the BoP is not an Escort/Raptor but therefor has more options for customization. Is that your problem? I have to admit your post is confusing in more than one way.

PS: It's Stahl
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# 12
02-28-2011, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by icestorm218 View Post
your upset over 0.12%? sheesh people will complain about anything...besides...its a game...we are all here to have fun, right?
Exactly. Also - they are not the same classes of ships. Bird of prey is not an escort (and vice versa) - Why shouldn't there be at least minor differences? If 0.12% actually made a significant impact I'd see the OP's point but it really doesn't.
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# 13
02-28-2011, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SP3CTREnyc
God left this forum a long time ago...
god is in the kdf, an he turn his back on this game 6 months ago and put it into exile until cryptic pull there fingers out, seriously fed fem chests arnt big enough in open jackets, thats it boys call the press stop all work, we must make fed breasts bigger, that is a major problem................................

but to the bop, its the closest thing low lvl kdf have to a sci ship so whats that tell you apart from the fact we were developed a### about face an slapped on the wrong end before being put out.
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# 14
02-28-2011, 08:48 AM
What a lame thread. Some people will complain about such BS... I am naming the OP honorary Azurian.
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# 15
02-28-2011, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SP3CTREnyc
God left this forum a long time ago...
What does God need with a Thread?


OP. The difference is so minute its unnoticeable. You hate it that much, use a Raptor like I do, or a Cruiser for survivablity. Sheesh
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# 16
02-28-2011, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FarsightFrostwhisper
What a lame thread. Some people will complain about such BS... I am naming the OP honorary Azurian.
Now, that's just mean.

I am just not sure wheter against Azurian or against the OP.
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# 17 Omg ... Re-explaining
02-28-2011, 04:13 PM
Damage BOP vs ESCORT is 0.71% with all same BUFF, speed BOP vs ESCORT is 0.83% over same distance.
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I feel like im talking with kindergarden child; cant we read before answering; please.

0.71% = a difference of 29% over weapon damage with my bop; 0.83 = 17% difference in distance with all same buff.

BOP _ ESCORT ives used pattern alpha- patern omega with both ship, and the difference in damage is equal to 29% less for BOP; and ive's used evasve manouever for both escort and bop with all the same console; there was a 6.8km differnce for the escort; wich gives him a better distance of 17% for th escort.


for god sake guys, im not complaining like the usual klingon, i got both ship in both faction; im simply saying this was not an issue a couple of months ago; the dev did lowered the power of the bop; both in damage and evasive action, now if you guy dont mind about this; its all ok, il simply used my feds character's ... but hell we will all be fed and people will stop using bop, unless there retarded.
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# 18
02-28-2011, 04:15 PM
How can you have all the same consoles and set up when they don't have the same consoles or set up?
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# 19
02-28-2011, 04:22 PM
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OK time to get some update on what's going on;

You Dev; cant be serious to apply such modification; i was just off for a few month's and i come back to this; youve's listened to this little fed's players and reduced damage and speed on BOP, is this the most ridiculous idea ive's ever seen ...

Damage BOP vs ESCORT is 0.71% with all same BUFF, speed BOP vs ESCORT is 0.83% over same distance.

ONE QUESTION; .................................................. .. WHY?

Dont you think we would never noticed; are there so many feds that KDF dont mather anymore; im desapointed that a faction should be overpowered just caused they cry to dev's and outnumber us;

Is this not a democracy; should we be noticed before doing such change or does this Dan stalh change is point of view for dictatorship.

A very unhappy customer ...
As far as I know there hasnt been any changes to the BoP. There have been changes to skills and fixes to things that now work how they were originally supposed to. As far as nerfing BoPs. I dont think there has been one yet. Not like the carrier.

Also those percentages are not that high. Less than one percent doesnt support anything. Perhaps its the gear or you are rusty?
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# 20
02-28-2011, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TYRANTER View Post
Damage BOP vs ESCORT is 0.71% with all same BUFF, speed BOP vs ESCORT is 0.83% over same distance.
************************************************** ************************************************** ********************

I feel like im talking with kindergarden child; cant we read before answering; please.

0.71% = a difference of 29% over weapon damage with my bop; 0.83 = 17% difference in distance with all same buff.

BOP _ ESCORT ives used pattern alpha- patern omega with both ship, and the difference in damage is equal to 29% less for BOP; and ive's used evasve manouever for both escort and bop with all the same console; there was a 6.8km differnce for the escort; wich gives him a better distance of 17% for th escort.


for god sake guys, im not complaining like the usual klingon, i got both ship in both faction; im simply saying this was not an issue a couple of months ago; the dev did lowered the power of the bop; both in damage and evasive action, now if you guy dont mind about this; its all ok, il simply used my feds character's ... but hell we will all be fed and people will stop using bop, unless there retarded.
And I really dont see where you are coming from. I have friends who havent complained about the BoP slowing down. And your numbers ARE not a 17% difference. You are talking about 0.17% and 0.29%. WAY less than 17 and 29%.

They changed how engines work and engine powers a while back. You might want to look at your skills. I havent had anyone, that I know, that flies both those ships complain about a less than a one percent loss in engine performance.

And btw... 0.83% = 0.83%. It doesnt magically equal to 83%. Your difference would 0.12% less than one percent with your numbers and using a calculator. My calculator would also like to know how less than one percent difference can become 20% difference.

You really need to chill out on this. There hasnt been any nerfing of BoPs. You can check the engineering reports for the time you have been gone. There has been skill changes. And changes how ships move across the board. BoPs still being the most maneuverable of all the ships besides the Delta Flyer. Its probably something on your end that may be causing this. Check your skills.

What are your captains careers? A science dude in a BoP isnt going to maneuver as fast as a tactical officer in a BoP. This is the same for escorts.

Do you have your skills set to boost the performance and efficiency of your engines? They did some work on those some time back so they became actually useful.

It just takes some work and reading and not jumping to conclusions. I'd recommend reading release notes and engineering reports for the last 2 months you have been gone. Also maybe asking politely "I've been gone for 2 months, my BoP seems slow, was something changed?" might of been a better way to go about this. You probably would of gotten better answers.
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