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# 11
03-13-2011, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by staalker View Post
YI'd have been happier with the truth, that the Klingons aren't fleshed out as well as the Federation is in "official" Star Trek lore. It makes it harder to add content for them, based on the series/movies. However, this is an alternate timeline. Wasn't the point of that so they could add content that was "out of sync" with the series and movies without disrupting everything?

This being an alerternate relaity from the old, there should be no real limitations to what they can add so long a they follow the basic rules, such as Starfleets Prime Directive and such.
Actually, it's the original time-line, however it's years after Spock and Nero went to the past, thus leaving our time-line and creating the alternate time-line. You are correct, though that they chose to have the game at this point in time to be able to add to the canon instead of being restricted to just repeating it.

As to your other point about lack of Klingon info in the movies and series, while this is true, there is a lot more in the books, which is also part of the canon.
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# 12
03-13-2011, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by staalker View Post
I'd have been happier with the truth, that the Klingons aren't fleshed out as well as the Federation is in "official" Star Trek lore. It makes it harder to add content for them, based on the series/movies. However, this is an alternate timeline. Wasn't the point of that so they could add content that was "out of sync" with the series and movies without disrupting everything?

This being an alerternate relaity from the old, there should be no real limitations to what they can add so long a they follow the basic rules, such as Starfleets Prime Directive and such.
I think you migh want to have a look at "The Path to 2409" again.
It show that this is the unaltered post-Nemesis timeline.
There is a line that leads "down and backwards" into the alternate timeline of "Star Trek" (2009).
This is the "proper timline", not the alternate one affected by the appearance of the Narada in 2233.
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# 13
03-13-2011, 09:52 AM
has spock and nero actualy gone back yet then cos im sure i remember spock talking as if he was in this time about nero at the start of the game. and is he in this universe still cos other wise it makes little sense that its spock talking to us.
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# 14
03-13-2011, 09:57 AM
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has spock and nero actualy gone back yet then cos im sure i remember spock talking as if he was in this time about nero at the start of the game. and is he in this universe still cos other wise it makes little sense that its spock talking to us.
http://www.startrekonline.com/node/235/long

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According to sensor reports recorded on Stardate 64471.6 by the USS Enterprise-E, the Hobus supernova was contained by a limited singularity, ending the threat to the quadrant. Starfleet believes that both the Jellyfish and the Narada were lost.

"He sacrificed himself to save us all," Ambassador Picard says of his friend Spock. "May his soul live long and prosper."
The reason he still speaks to use though he was still here is because Cryptic asked Nimoy to do so, not because it makes any actual sense.
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# 15
03-13-2011, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mister_dee
http://www.startrekonline.com/node/235/long



The reason he still speaks to use though he was still here is because Cryptic asked Nimoy to do so, not because it makes any actual sense.
nice but one thing, that goes against everything we see in game for what the kdf are doing. we were stuck in the neutral zone and the klingon homeworld sector for nearly 6 months, we then got into defri space and allowed to wander around the pi zones and the feds get to lord over every other area of space.
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# 16
03-13-2011, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sh1ngara
nice but one thing, that goes against everything we see in game for what the kdf are doing. we were stuck in the neutral zone and the klingon homeworld sector for nearly 6 months, we then got into defri space and allowed to wander around the pi zones and the feds get to lord over every other area of space.
This was Federaton Online at launch and in some aspects it still is, does it actually surprise you?
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# 17 Klingon PvE
03-13-2011, 02:58 PM
Ok here is a thought for the devs, seeing as how the whole story line behind the game is Romulus and Remus get destroyed and the Klingons seeing a weakness on their part in the Romulan Empire take advantage of the situation and begin taking back territory from the Romulans that was theirs.....How about an entire story arc on the Klingon side where you fight the Romulans and Remans for territory in space and ground missions. I know dumb idea huh?
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# 18
03-13-2011, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mister_dee
This was Federaton Online at launch and in some aspects it still is, does it actually surprise you?
thats weird cos when i went to the shop it said startrek online and it also said be federation or kdf in a universe that you can explore, said exact same thing on the website too, didnt read anywhere that it said play starfleet online and explore the universe, go to strainge new worlds and meet strainge new people and play kdf and be in the game so that the federation have someone to shoot at in pvp dont leave your area as we never bothered to create it and btw dont expect anything to change in a years time.
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# 19
03-14-2011, 07:27 AM
btw. STO isn't canon or what ever you call it.
If it would be, then you won't see a federation spaceship with anthing else than phaser, photonen or transphasic torpedos. Klingons would stick to disruptors and Borg won't fire plasma.
And as mentioned before - there is much contend in the books. Didn't cryptic said they hired a bookworm to let the content beeing as much as canon as possible?

And it is so - why should anybode at Lv.6 change sides just to come to the conclusion that he/she hardly has anything to do? The federation and the klingon empire is at war but you can't enter any sector?
Even in TNG it was possible to wander around undiscovered. And when you played your first levels in federation space - umm... there are klingon vessels. So WTF? Why does a NPC cross a boarder I can't cross? Why are romulan marrauders in klingon space while we can't fight back? Why do we team up in borg space for random encounters but can't pair in STFs? Why? Why? Why?

Just one answer - CRYPTIC doesn't care at all.

To give you an impression - I've a 239 days old ticket regarding the violation of TOS - never answered.
I've a 60 days old ticket regarding a bug in Holodeck - never answered.
I've writen and read many kdf threds but hardly seen any response from CRYPTIC.
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# 20
03-14-2011, 08:39 AM
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hahaha
You want KDF content? Really? Good joke. Whats next? A working cloak? Ship costumes? Clothes?
Agree with Angelus. I'm beyond trusting Cryptic that they will bring on more Klingon stuff. They have driven away so many Klingon players that our faction is merely a shadow of it's former self and with that few bits of content we have there is no incentive for players to come over.
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