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# 11
03-07-2011, 11:55 AM
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Canonicly the B'rel has only appeared once in Star Trek.
Sorry, they don't specifically label it every time you see it but you know it when you see it, a lot. In TOS it was just in the movies. St3,4,5,6. It's the same general model in TNG for the larger version, the KVort, but in size comparisons we still see the smaller Brel a lot, especially in ds9. They just don't specifically state what class they are beyond a bird of prey, typically. Maybe they say it's a d-14 or whatever every now and then, but that is more of the specific model of the Brel.
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# 12
03-07-2011, 11:55 AM
it should be faster.

it does ruin the immersion. I don't feel like i'm in 2409, i feel like i am in a a mish mash of everyone's wierd dream (my wierd dream included)
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# 13
03-07-2011, 11:56 AM
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What? I mean look. If you took the design of a car from the 50's and filled it with todays technology, should it not run circles around a 10 year old car?
yeah, and if I recall right, the explanation is that these aren't even the old constitutions, but are created by modular hulls that make it easy to mimic the appearance.
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# 14
03-07-2011, 11:58 AM
You know back a few months ago I would should against this, however I amw illing to have people take their mirandas to tier 5 ont he condision I can do the same with my captain's yacht.
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# 15
03-07-2011, 12:01 PM
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The B'rel is also canonicly a much much larger ship than the TMP BoP's
In fact Canon B'rels are even larger than the constitution class. :p
The B'rels are listed at 150m long, the TMP Consitution is 305m long.

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Canonicly the B'rel has only appeared once in Star Trek.
Where you get that from? In TNG, DS9, and even Voyager, the smaller BoPs were B-rels, while the larger ones were K'Vorts.
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# 16
03-07-2011, 12:03 PM
T5 Constitution should be in the upcoming TOS Pack.

Expressionists vs Restrictionists, Expressionists always win in MMO's because they aren't restricting others play with their opinions.
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# 17
03-07-2011, 12:06 PM
The B'rel was only named "once" in all of Star Trek.
In the TNG Episodes Rascals, where her size was shown to be a little more than half the size of a Galaxy class starship.

So no, majority of the smaller BoP's are definitely NOT B'rel class, Regardless of what fandom and soft canon wants to say.
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# 18
03-07-2011, 12:07 PM
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What? I mean look. If you took the design of a car from the 50's and filled it with todays technology, should it not run circles around a 10 year old car?
http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20070223/...te_540x317.jpg

vs.

http://2011corvette.us/bimages/2011corvette_c7_2.jpg

...i don't think so.
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# 19
03-07-2011, 12:11 PM
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The B'rel was only named "once" in all of Star Trek.
In the TNG Episodes Rascals, where her size was shown to be a little more than half the size of a Galaxy class starship.

So no, majority of the smaller BoP's are definitely NOT B'rel class, Regardless of what fandom and soft canon wants to say.
Didn't know the Technical Manuals and the ST Encyclopedias were soft canon. :p

Unless we have contradicting cannonical information, all smaller types of BoPs were B'Rels and the Cruiser-sized ones were K'Vorts.
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# 20
03-07-2011, 12:18 PM
or let me put it like that:

D-7 Class at tier 5 killing Vor'Cha's and Negh'Var ?

it would just be wrong.

and if you come in here with the *upgrade* argument, i suspect you are fine then if we implant a Galaxy Class Warpcore in your TOS interrior C-Store pack.... and LCARS instead of buttons? no?
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