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# 191
03-16-2011, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BluerockBeing04 View Post
However, unless they decide to run, the pilot section of the MVAE is a really squishy ship..
But that section has more hull and more shileds than a bop, that must make bops extra squishy.
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# 192
03-16-2011, 05:30 PM
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Just for the record you are OK with ONE Fed Escort that inherently beats Klink ships? Think I quoted that accurately. Are you also OK with that ONE Fed Science ship that inherently beats anything the KDF has as well? Just wanted to make sure I've got the score card filled out correctly.
Dont forget the fed cruiser that beats all kdf cruisers.
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# 193
03-16-2011, 05:34 PM
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Dont forget the fed cruiser that beats all kdf cruisers.
I didnt want to pile on...but yea.
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# 194
03-16-2011, 05:44 PM
I think I may have fought some tonite in pvp. If so, they are not that bad in my opinion. It was a 50/50 nite.
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# 195
03-16-2011, 05:54 PM
i was flying as my tactical and got called a sci spammer while flying my escort
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# 196
03-16-2011, 05:55 PM
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Just for the record you are OK with ONE Fed Escort that inherently beats Klink ships? Think I quoted that accurately. Are you also OK with that ONE Fed Science ship that inherently beats anything the KDF has as well? Just wanted to make sure I've got the score card filled out correctly.
I am okay with ONE Fed Escort that can easily beat any Klink ship, except fore one specific Klink ship that can easily beat any Federation ship, except for said Fed. Escort. Preferably this Klink ship would be an upgraded Raptor.

Cruisers, Sci. ships, Carriers, Battlecruisers........... and less BOP, you could probably put one of those up as something that easily beats Fed. ships as well, so the Klinks have a variety of ships to use. The other four classes I mentioned are strictly support classes. Whenever I fly my cruisers or sci. ships, the general rule is to never get invloved in ehavy combat, and to get out as soon as possible.

EDIT: Also, someone said that the Fed. ships are superior to Klink ships anyway. Yeah, I'll remember that the next time your so-called "under-powered BoPs", come from behind and take me out before I have a chance to do anything about it.
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# 197
03-16-2011, 06:02 PM
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i was flying as my tactical and got called a sci spammer while flying my escort
rofl, and there's the perfect example of the average PvPer's knowledge of the game.


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Originally Posted by spartan844
Cruisers, Sci. ships, Carriers, Battlecruisers........... and less BOP, you could probably put one of those up as something that easily beats Fed. ships as well, so the Klinks have a variety of ships to use. The other four classes I mentioned are strictly support classes. Whenever I fly my cruisers or sci. ships, the general rule is to never get invloved in ehavy combat, and to get out as soon as possible.
Are you saying that Klingon ships (Sci/Carrier/Cruisers) are better than their Fed counterparts? If so, that's quite false.

Sci: Intrepid is by far the best Sci ship in the game. The Varanus is a DSSV clone, but worse. Feds also have the RSV to choose from.
Cruisers: Vor'Cha = Assault Cruiser, but with a better turn rate (lower shields and hull, though, I believe). Negh'Var = Galaxy-R. Marauder = Star Cruiser. Feds then also have the Excelsior and Galaxy-X.

Fed ships are equal to, and more often than not, better their Klingon counterparts.
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# 198
03-16-2011, 06:48 PM
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i was flying as my tactical and got called a sci spammer while flying my escort
LOL now you know the BOP drivers pain.... I know right one shockwave every 45 sec and your a spammer.
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# 199
03-16-2011, 08:17 PM
While I have had a BoP hit me with gravity well and psw, Id hardly call it "sci spamming." I've been accused of the same in my D'Kyr, which of course is true...I'm a sci vessel, of course I'm gonna hit you with my abilities as often as possible.

But as far as fed cruisers being better than Klingon cruisers...are you outta your Vulcan mind? The Negh'var has the best turn rate of any big cruiser, it can actually use its dual heavy cannons, unlike my gimped Galaxy X. And many a fleet leader uses the Vor'Cha as their pvp build. The BoP is also one of the best ships in the game, in experienced hands. So I must disagree, Klingons have equal if not better ships.
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# 200
03-16-2011, 08:56 PM
I've been using it and if I don't have a team backing me up I last about the same as I do in my Defiant refit. One difference is the MVAM loses the element of suprise that the Defiant and BoPs have, I used to regularly get one pass pops with the Defiant, not so with the MVAM.

The pets die rather quickly, I usually see them go away with a good scatter volley, mine and other players. In my experience it is not OP. I can do more damage and die relatively less in my Defiant if I don't stick around and try to take a pounding. With the MVAM I can run but I can't hide, that has greatly reduced my survival against a half organized team.
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