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# 261
03-18-2011, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DekuScrubby View Post
Except none of those items have anything to do with PvE specifically so I don't see what point you're trying to make, if any.
What we have been proposing for the most part would not make a difference in PvE except the Devs do not want separate potnecies for PvP and PvE on items.

I mean honestly, I do PvE, and really some of the stuff added is really dumb, and a lot of it has been QQed about since release. I want my Excelsior, I want my Gal-X, I want my cloaking defiant, I want my fire while cloaked B-rel most of the PvE community has been responsible for most of the crap that clutters the C-Store right now then the PvP. All that we have asked for is a balance and forethought and we would stay in our little corner of the community.
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# 262
03-18-2011, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lord-Thy View Post
SW have won the last season of KT League just by exploiting BoPs and Carriers. That says it all.
Do you really think SW would not have won had we fielded a federation setup?


And one thing that I absolutely cannot understand: If Klingons were truly overpowered because of their ships, then why are there no players out there who want to win? Just leave your federation ships behind, get into the op BOPs, put dual heavies on your cruisers and start winning on a regular basis against TSI, RE and all the other good fed fleets.

Even QEW, who have an extremely good setup are not dominating all fed premades. Tough fights that can go either way yes, certain win for the Klingons no.
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# 263
03-18-2011, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ashvitto
A) according to which reasoning???

B) Not anymore, this is the problem. Now are balanced, and klingon side start to cry cry.
If Klingons were the exact same as Feds, why bother playing as a Klingon (aside from RP). FvF pops way faster as it is. There needs to be some distinction between the factions, otherwise there'd be no reason to play one over the other. And as it stands, Feds have way, way more to offer.

What, the addition of MVAE suddenly somehow balanced the game? It's not balanced, Fed ships are quite superior. For example, find me a Klingon ship that can my Intrepid. Nigh invulnerablity, 8 Sci BO slots, and a kickass turn rate.
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# 264
03-18-2011, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mvs5191 View Post
Feds have way, way more to offer.
*facepalm*

Apparantly you've forgotten that the only way to get a Bridge crew of Orion women is to play as a Klingon. You don't think that that attracts at least SOME players?
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# 265
03-18-2011, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mancom
Do you really think SW would not have won had we fielded a federation setup?


And one thing that I absolutely cannot understand: If Klingons were truly overpowered because of their ships, then why are there no players out there who want to win? Just leave your federation ships behind, get into the op BOPs, put dual heavies on your cruisers and start winning on a regular basis against TSI, RE and all the other good fed fleets.

Even QEW, who have an extremely good setup are not dominating all fed premades. Tough fights that can go either way yes, certain win for the Klingons no.

But you didn't...... so what are you speaking about?

No i'm sure i would not win. But you? Are you so sure? big humility. Grats.... I play 109283283776 time against Era, Zorena, may kay, random, Purr ect ect in fed setup and it was always fun. we/I lost 8/10 but often in 80/90 min of arena.[ I found this in my images http://img707.imageshack.us/i/pugfsi.png/ it was 75 min of big funny arena. ]


I did 2 arenas vs SW / kling.

first KT arena) huge sci and more huge faw+dbb spam. 3 bop 1 carrier 1 vorcha. no story.

second KT arena (after bop and faw nerf) = 5 carrier .

For me is ok, no problem. Lose is good as win, i want to have fun.

But I repeat the same phrase i write on feedback topic on KT forum.

If you win so easily is not only becouse you are all great players, but also becouse you use the game mechanics and the op skills in best lamer way. ( FAW was still not nerfed.) then get off the throne
Go to see zorena answer.

Why i don't play on kling.?? I have a sci aliens in KDF, but i hate red and i don't like klingon ship. (esthetically). Is enough?

Btw, I was talking about MVAE. And specifically about the no-sense pew pew from klingon player about this ship. you're used to easy win and now that there's a ship who can deal with BOP lots of plp start cry cry,


I'm pretty sure you have no problems with mvae.
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# 266
03-18-2011, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mvs5191 View Post
find me a Klingon ship that can hurt my Intrepid. Nigh invulnerablity, 8 Sci BO slots, and a kickass turn rate.
Wait the BoP should fill that request. Shouldn't it? I mean with its "Iwin" and all.

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Originally Posted by Ashvitto
No, in fact Zorena (u know who is him?) says sry to us for used only OP ability (faw+dbb) and huge spam in last match. But yes they are strong player and have big teamwork. This , plus, the most lamer way to play STO = full/easy win.
Yes I know Zorena, though not on a close personall level.
FAW is an ability and does not reflect KDF OPness, even if used by a KDF player. It reflects the broken nature of a power only.
DBB is a piece of equipment and is not an indicator of KDF OPness iether.
SPAM just sucks, but once again is not indicative of the KDF being OP as many FED fleets were spamming well before the carrier was used this way. I have lamented the pet spam until blue in the face.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashvitto
I did 2 arenas vs SW / kling.

first KT arena) huge sci and more huge faw+dbb spam. 3 bop 1 carrier 1 vorcha. no story.

second KT arena (after bop and faw nerf) = 5 carrier .

If you win so easily is not only becouse you are all great players, but also becouse you use the game mechanics and the op skills in best lamer way. ( FAW was still not nerfed.) then get off the throne
I sit on no throne.
The use of game mechanics (broken or not) is not a sign of KDF OPness. Its a sign that someone knew how to squeeze the most from the current system at that time.

As too the MVAM, I care not how it works and have said nothing to its OP nature, weither it is true or not.
I am merely tired of hearing the same blather about the KDF OP ( and our supposed fear of losing somehting I never believed we had) everytime I open the forums as a response to why a KDF fan becomes upset over a game mechanic or the latest new fed thingy.
Its an old arguement and holds no wieght.
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# 267
03-18-2011, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spartan844
*facepalm*

Apparantly you've forgotten that the only way to get a Bridge crew of Orion women is to play as a Klingon. You don't think that that attracts at least SOME players?
Wait can you sell/trade BOffs across factions becuase this may open up new EC opportunities? I mean teh Orions do move living merchandise, don't they?:p
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# 268
03-18-2011, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mvs5191 View Post
If Klingons were the exact same as Feds, why bother playing as a Klingon (aside from RP). FvF pops way faster as it is. There needs to be some distinction between the factions, otherwise there'd be no reason to play one over the other. And as it stands, Feds have way, way more to offer.

What, the addition of MVAE suddenly somehow balanced the game? It's not balanced, Fed ships are quite superior. For example, find me a Klingon ship that can my Intrepid. Nigh invulnerablity, 8 Sci BO slots, and a kickass turn rate.
Praxis, no offense, but we played so many times against each other, and i see you explode lots of time ,( not from me of course, i used voyager too when i use "sholana") ...just like me. So lots of things, but definitely not invulnerable. (i would agree before the shield ability nerf, it was impressive at that time)

Voyager is a great ship, couse her turnrate, but not so good. It's great for science spam... I used voy for 8 month i change just for this mvae so i feel i can say i know well that ship. (i loved her in all torpedo build so much....uuuuu <3 <3 )

But can you find me a cruiser in fed who can equip cannon? And can you find me a ship (without mvae) can do one of BOP build?

Now things are really balance imho. Klingon can equip more cannon and can use hit & run tactics better than fed (battle cloack rules) ; and fed has better science ship (but, not unique) and now an escort who can compete with the bop.
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# 269
03-18-2011, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
Wait the BoP should fill that request. Shouldn't it? I mean with its "Iwin" and all.

Yes I know Zorena, though not on a close personall level.
FAW is an ability and does not reflect KDF OPness, even if used by a KDF player. It reflects the broken nature of a power only.
DBB is a piece of equipment and is not an indicator of KDF OPness iether.
SPAM just sucks, but once again is not indicative of the KDF being OP as many FED fleets were spamming well before the carrier was used this way. I have lamented the pet spam until blue in the face.

I sit on no throne.
The use of game mechanics (broken or not) is not a sign of KDF OPness. Its a sign that someone knew how to squeeze the most from the current system at that time.

As too the MVAM, I care not how it works and have said nothing to its OP nature, weither it is true or not.
I am merely tired of hearing the same blather about the KDF OP ( and our supposed fear of losing somehting I never believed we had) everytime I open the forums as a response to why a KDF fan becomes upset over a game mechanic or the latest new fed thingy.
Its an old arguement and holds no wieght.

Roach it was a reply to SW guy, i agree with 90% of things you are writing. It was an off topic.

I repeat , i just saying , now that things are "escort-balanced", i read klingon pew pew. And for me is more ridiculous is that by pro/great players.
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# 270
03-18-2011, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashvitto
Roach it was a reply to SW guy, i agree with 90% of things you are writing. It was an off topic.

I repeat , i just saying , now that things are "escort-balanced", i read klingon pew pew. And for me is more ridiculous is that by pro/great players.
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