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# 21
03-25-2011, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveyNY View Post
I'll wager that most 'people', actually paid for this game because it said STAR TREK on the box, not because of what particular ERA it would represent...

In fact, I'll also wager that everybody that purchased this game, probably thought that it would contain the particular features/era that they luv the most...


So the "past-crap" that you refer too, is probably a very big reason that this game is doing as well as it is...
Not me. I was just expecting a Star Trek MMO with what ever storyline it had. I was actually happy when I found out it wasn't tied to any particular trek offshoot (TNG,ToS,DS9) and was going to follow its own path. The grand storyline is more than a little muddled at the moment but I can understand them creating product for a constantly wanting consumer.
One doesn't stop feeding the cash cow.
I just wish they would throw us some more milk form time to time as they do.
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# 22
03-25-2011, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveyNY View Post
I'll wager that most 'people', actually paid for this game because it said STAR TREK on the box, not because of what particular ERA it would represent...

In fact, I'll also wager that everybody that purchased this game, probably thought that it would contain the particular features/era that they luv the most...


So the "past-crap" that you refer too, is probably a very big reason that this game is doing as well as it is...


Anybody wanna risk some Quatloos...?...
Yeah! I was pretty upset when I figured out that you would have to buy TNG/DS9 outfits.

I mean the future uniforms are alright... but they're not Startrek by and large.

What about those new ships? Those aren't extremely Star Trek. They're missing something and I can't quite put my finger on it, but I know it's there. Something about the saucer in the original series and the way everything comes together as a full picture.
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# 23
03-25-2011, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by geofftillman View Post
No, all of the fans of the various Trek shows are likely to quit. I know I certainly wouldn't play this game if it quit being Star Trek and turned into generic sci-fi game with out the ships and uniforms that were actually in Trek.

Just about the only canon 25th century thing in this game are the Dreadnought and the All Good Things uniforms.

Your suggestion would kill this game.
It will never not be Star Trek.
Eventually Cryptic will slowdown or stop making non-old ToS content and focus on newer gadgets and stuff all and the Cstore will grow and the game will not die.
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# 24
03-25-2011, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ThetaNine
Ok, I have to say I love TOS (I grew up watching it in the early 1970's). And I appreciate the fact the devs made it so we can relive that environment inside our ships and out with the new TOS bundle pack on the C-Store.

What I'd really like to see is a 2409 C-Store Bundle of NEW material: New Uniforms, New Bridges, New Shuttles, New Weapons that Scale Up with Character Progression!


How about you?
We call the 2409 bundle what's already in the game...
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# 25
03-25-2011, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
Not me. I was just expecting a Star Trek MMO with what ever storyline it had. I was actually happy when I found out it wasn't tied to any particular trek offshoot (TNG,ToS,DS9) and was going to follow its own path. The grand storyline is more than a little muddled at the moment but I can understand them creating product for a constantly wanting consumer.
One doesn't stop feeding the cash cow.
I just wish they would throw us some more milk form time to time as they do.
I think all the Klingon Cows are still out in the pasture waiting to get milked...

Either that or somebody left the gate open, and the poor Klink Farmer is trying to round them up as fast as he can to get his product to market...

Eventually, we'll all get a bigger gulp of some nIm and hopefully it will yonmoH...
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# 26
03-25-2011, 06:13 PM
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Well, the era the game actually takes place in is the same era the All Good Things uniforms are from and players love those. IMO, those should be the Federation Standard Uniform for this era. Alas, we are stuck with a bunch of leather and wool looking stuff instead. Not that I'm complaining, but a departure from the animal skin uniforms would be nice. After all this is the future. We really shouldn't be wearing animal skins of any kind, even if they are synthetic.

That why when i got the chance to get those uniforms i change very BOF and my alts alike to wear those since am role playing. i wish i could do the same with my NPC too because right now they don't look like they are from my ship.
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# 27
03-25-2011, 06:17 PM
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Well, the era the game actually takes place in is the same era the All Good Things uniforms are from and players love those. IMO, those should be the Federation Standard Uniform for this era.
Agreed, AGT uniforms should have been the uniform from day one.
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# 28
03-25-2011, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
It will never not be Star Trek.
Eventually Cryptic will slowdown or stop making non-old ToS content and focus on newer gadgets and stuff all and the Cstore will grow and the game will not die.
Minor correction, Roach, because I keep see you abbreviating it wrong.

The Original Series is abbreviated TOS, all capitals.

Terms of Service is abbreviated ToS, with a lower case O.

It makes a big difference if a conversation ever included discussion of both.


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# 29
03-25-2011, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bellsarius
That why when i got the chance to get those uniforms i change very BOF and my alts alike to wear those since am role playing. i wish i could do the same with my NPC too because right now they don't look like they are from my ship.
Same here....

Though it depends on whether or not I'm flying my TOS Connie... (which I'll probably be doing a lot more for at least a few weeks now)


(I hope we get a 2nd slot for BO's someday..., just so I don't have to keep spending twenty minutes switching them back and forth each time.)
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# 30
03-25-2011, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackavaar View Post
Dude, a ship is not content. It's cosmetic fluff. You pay extra for cosmetic fluff.

Did you pay a dime for the new Featured Series? No. Now that was content and a damn sight more awesome than any content additions I've seen for an FPS game in an expansion pack.

It makes perfect sense to me and I'm perfectly willing to continue to pay extra for cosmetics as long as the content still comes for free.

Edit:
And where you're finding expansion packs for anything that costs under 15 dollars is beyond me. Where are you shopping? How long have these expansions been out?


It would be fluff if it were just skins. Some of the ships then got special abilities, which is a little bit above mere fluff. Now we've got the first (apparently) properly scaled interior which is more or less a bug fix, and the interactive objects in said interior are hard to classify, but I would put them as content. Unless the TOS interior is free, in which I retract that.

Ex packs for FPS games max at around $30. So, two ships for $30 or 5-10 new maps, all new vehicles/weapons, new factions, and all the trappings. That doesn't count games like UT2004 and UT3, which did their expacks entirely free.

As for featured episodes, keep in mind that every three and a half months you have paid as much as you would pay on average for an entire FPS game. Do you feel like you have a full game's worth of new content every four months? Would you feel justified if someone sold you a $50 game with just those 4-5 featured episodes? Or do you simply cancel in the intervening months and resub so you only pay $15 for those 4-5 featured episodes?

So that's why I'm surprised whenever someone asks for more stuff to pay for. If the request was merely for more stuff to appear in the game for the sub fee, that would've made more sense to me. But hey, I'm not usually an MMO guy.
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