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# 61
03-31-2011, 05:04 PM
I agree with this 110%, but only if they fix the rank insignia on the TWoK uniforms first.

And it only makes sense that they handle the different fluff packs in chronological order. All that really means is that even if the pack you want right now isnt next on the schedule, you know it'll be coming out eventually.

Proper rank pins, ST VI bridge, and cascading phasers. That would make me a happy camper.
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# 62
03-31-2011, 05:27 PM
Im for this as long as it is the Star Trek VI bridge and the Star trek VI bridge of the Excelsior.

Im dying for a proper Excelsior bridge
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# 63
03-31-2011, 06:04 PM
/signed with a huge red pen in all caps, with an exclamation point.

Cryptic would get a LOT of money if they release this - the WoK era is so near and dear to so many of us. I would drop money for this in a heartbeat. Great suggestion!
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# 64
03-31-2011, 10:08 PM
Good call on McCoy's tunic. And I appreciate the observation which followed, too.

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Originally Posted by Shatterhand View Post
If a WoK pack is made, this needs to be included:

Sickbay Uniform

Anyway, on to the main point of my post...

To be brutally honest, I'm more than a bit shocked by the attitudes of some of the community regarding the inclusion of 23rd-century items in STO. I can't help but question whether they truly understand their presence in-game.

First of all, there is plenty of 25th-century technology and design in the game already. It's there in the interiors, the uniforms, the ship designs, etc. It was included at launch, and I have no doubt that as time goes on, we'll see even more. There's almost no limit to what the Cryptic team can come up with for future tech/uniforms/design. They're dealing with unwritten TREK; it's a blank canvas that any fan would be tripping over themselves to paint upon.

HOWEVER...

People have to realize that the fanbase for Star Trek is strongly rooted in nostalgia. A vast number of those who love TREK grew up watching TOS either first-run or in reruns, went to the original-series movies when they first appeared in theatres, or watched TNG from the first night it aired to the finale seven years later. Their passion for Star Trek is based in what was more than what will be. If that wasn't so, there wouldn't still be comic books and novels being released that are based in those eras. People still want classic TREK to be a part of their fandom.

Yes, it's fun to roleplay in STO as a Starfleet officer two centuries after the adventures of Kirk and Spock. But for many, imaginations work differently. They can't be Captain Kirk or Mr. Spock, but if they have a chance to be the closest thing to that character they'll leap at the opportunity, ESPECIALLY if the ship they're commanding and the corridors they're walking in are the same ones they grew up enjoying.

So why not have a TOS bundle or a Motion Picture-era uniform option? Those who adored those periods of TREK history will buy them immediately, dress their characters in the iconic uniforms, walk them onto the bridge or in the corridors and bask in nostalgic joy.

Do the older uniforms and starships affect "immersion" that terribly? Only to those who let it. People who wring their hands with stress over seeing TOS-era Constitution-class starships flying in 25th-century space...well, sorry, but they need to lighten up a little, and put their imaginations to work. Come up with any excuse you like, such as: Continued conflicts between the KDF and the UFP and the increase in Starfleet's numbers have forced Starfleet engineers to un-mothball previously decommissioned starships and modify them for active use in the field.

TA-DA! Canonical conflict explained, at least for me...and I didn't even have a problem with it.

STO should always have its foundation in the future of Star Trek, and I don't foresee Cryptic eschewing that anytime soon. However, I see no harm whatsoever in STO honoring its roots and satisfying the nostalgic fans' desire to re-live Trek's past through these optional modifications.
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# 65
04-01-2011, 01:12 AM
this idea brings a tear to my eye, seriously this needs to happen, I would love an Excelsior, or the Enterprise's bridge packs, and don't forget the Miranda and Oberth Bridges to
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# 66
04-01-2011, 04:21 AM
Oh yes, I would definetly buy this pack if it came out.

But... you're missing one major uniform...

The jackets that Kirk, McCoy and Saavik wear wen they beam over to the Regula station. You would HAVE to have this included.
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# 67
04-01-2011, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Capt_wirge
this idea brings a tear to my eye, seriously this needs to happen, I would love an Excelsior, or the Enterprise's bridge packs, and don't forget the Miranda and Oberth Bridges to
With crew wearing TWOK uniforms.

I'll tell you, this was one of the biggest selling points for me on the TOS Bridge and Interior. NPC crew wearing the correct uniform.

However, with a TMP / TWOK pack, I'd like to see them build an option into the ship customization interface that allows you to choose if your crew wears TMP uniforms or TWOK uniforms.

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# 68
04-01-2011, 01:18 PM
I think some fences might be mended if the next "pack" is a free upgrade of all the basic 2409 stuff, or late Voyager or something like that... and then jump back to TMP/WoK, then to DS9, and so on, alternating until they meet in the middle. That way the people who actually like Cryptic's "modern day" won't be gritting their teeth at waiting in line until every other show - all of them in the PAST - have gotten some love.
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# 69
04-01-2011, 03:51 PM
I want the WotLK bundle.

Arthas would make a totally awesome bridge officer.
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# 70
04-01-2011, 04:53 PM
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the need/want for a TWoK style self leveling shipboard phaser.
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