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# 11
04-12-2011, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveAngelis
So they rage quit and limit the PVP player base even more? I guess that leaves the players who do not take this all as serious as some.
It seems people already rage-quit or rage-forfeit (unequpping shields?) right now. So what?

Broken powers lead to disgruntled players. Some of those will eventually ragequit.

If the devs can't put stop gaps on broken powers, maybe the community has to self-organize and do it themselves with the tools they have. If that fails, well, too bad.
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# 12
04-12-2011, 07:06 AM
Or.... Instead of rage quitting when someone uses it why not just use counters to it?
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# 13
04-12-2011, 07:08 AM
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So they rage quit and limit the PVP player base even more? I guess that leaves the players who do not take this all as serious as some.
In case you hadnt noticed, the PvP player base have allready been limited substantially.. For every person that have quit, it have made the issue far more pressing (by tipping the balance more toward FAW). The ultimate result of this could very well be that everyone you see in PvP either is part of a FAW premade or a utter noob in his first (and last) PvP.

I PvP because its fun, PvPing against a FAW team that melts cruisers as fast as escorts, isnt fun. Just like I cannot demand that you refrain from using this or that power, you cannot demand I continue doing something I dont find fun.

There are still people that dont use it, and I have two options:

1: Stop PvPing
2: Enter PvP and go solely for the fun fights.

Simple as that.
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# 14
04-12-2011, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveAngelis
Or.... Instead of rage quitting when someone uses it why not just use counters to it?
This is the kind of crazy talk that does not belong in a PvP forum. Counter? Adapt? You expect real PvP'ers to do these things? Please, do not derail this thread with such nonsense. Hilbert has done a great thing here, which I support.
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# 15
04-12-2011, 07:20 AM
I call dibs on Rock. You can bring as many Scissors as you want but if I see one scrap of Paper, well... that's what /logout is for.
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# 16 That is why
04-12-2011, 08:29 AM
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Or.... Instead of rage quitting when someone uses it why not just use counters to it?
1st, we have found a possible counter that works very well to 3 man FAW fest. It required 4 of us to change to powers we normally didn't run.
--Forced Respec
--Toon is now perma linked to anti Faw
--Fun factor from previous build is gone 'cus you don't get to play the way you intentionally wanted too.

2nd, it is easier to swear off using "said OPness" and either stay cloaked, stay cloaked and make them leave first or warp out and pray the next battle will have respectable players that don't have to rely on using FAW to fight.
--Hypocrisy be damned for those that use it
--waste my time, I waste thiers
--Man up in your Fleet. You want to PvP, then PvP right...gentleman's agreement, ban/exile what ever.
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# 17
04-12-2011, 08:39 AM
So no one has devised a good counter to FAW by using AF, Siphon or other debuffs to make FAW less than ideal?
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# 18
04-12-2011, 09:03 AM
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So no one has devised a good counter to FAW by using AF, Siphon or other debuffs to make FAW less than ideal?
Nope....and FAW with DEM III eats hull for breakfast.....never mind the shields.
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# 19
04-12-2011, 09:06 AM
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So no one has devised a good counter to FAW by using AF, Siphon or other debuffs to make FAW less than ideal?
Has the 5 man Escort/BoP hit-n-run been tried against it yet?
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# 20
04-12-2011, 09:11 AM
Roach the problem is that there is no way to heal a hull once it has taken damage in game.
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