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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
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The TOS interior is great, dont get me wrong, but you've opened a can of worms here by finishing it - you've shown that cryptic can make better interiors, with more interaction and proper scaling. The three interior layouts we've been using in the past just wont cut it anymore.

I figure you guys will have a lot on your hands, designing and releasing various interiors in the future, but I'm gonna jump the gun here and make the first request: Let's get an NX-01 style bridge and interior pack. Personally, I've always liked the more utilitarian and militarized look that enterprise had, it wasnt all 'shiny and clean' like many of its successors and it looked more like the inside of a nuclear submarine - ready for battle - than the inside of your grandmother's minivan (no offense to the TNG guys but... the tan was a little sickening).

There's also the allure of more conventional technology - actual showers that use water, a less advanced sickbay, military bunker-style housing for the majority of the crew, so on and so forth. Below I've got some images linked, and descriptions of specific areas I think should be included with the interior...

The Bridge

Layout
http://i54.tinypic.com/sl70uf.jpg

Render from voyager: elite force mod
http://i51.tinypic.com/2u6h1ky.jpg

Screencap from show
http://i56.tinypic.com/9h7zly.jpg

The enterprise bridge is a little more compact than most of the bridges we have currently, though it's pretty similar in scale to the new TOS bridge - though with more console detail. The MSD is in the back of the bridge, in the rectangular extension to the room; I cant quite remember but I think the door at the back of that section goes to the ready room/briefing room.

The overall look of the bridge is quite dark and very military styled - rather than using the comfortable 'curves' most of the bridges we're used to, everything is relatively square or angled.

Captain's Quarters & Captain's Dining Room

Captain's Quarters
http://i54.tinypic.com/2nrly85.jpg

Captain's Dining Room
http://i56.tinypic.com/2n66bus.jpg

Even though the captain is the 'big dog' on the ship, the NX-01's design kept true to modern day military styling... even the captain doesnt get a ton of room. It's a bit ridiculous, to me, to go on our current interiors and see a captain's room that could easily double for an entire crew lounge and then some, simply too big for one person. The captain's quarters on the nx01 are relatively small and to-the-point, no extra comforts, just a bed, a desk, and a shower (and the shower must be included, after all it was quite stressed in the show that it actually uses water instead of sonic waves like the TNG+ showers).

The Captain's mess/dining room should also be included, with a small section on the wall for trophies.

Crew deck corridors

Corridor example 1
http://i53.tinypic.com/iba07p.jpg

Corridor example 2
http://i56.tinypic.com/hvvzit.jpg

The nx-01's corridors, on the crew decks/upper decks at least, were quite small, even compared to the TOS interior we've got now. There really isnt a lot of room to spare on a starship, so no sense wasting it on open hallways. The corridors on those upper decks, as you can see in the images, are built square (much like the TOS interior) but the bulkheads form a rounded/tunnel like visual effect.

Sickbay

Layout
http://i55.tinypic.com/5xlg1g.jpg

Screencap
http://i56.tinypic.com/10i6o45.jpg

The enterprise sickbay was the only 'bright' area on the ship, and even then it was still relatively dim-lit compared to TOS/TNG era ships or the interiors we have available. The biggest thing to note is that the enterprise sickbay uses more 'modern' style medical equipment, rather than the high tech futuristic stuff we're used to - make note of the MRI-style scanner, for example.

The sickbay should also include the small decontamination chamber used by tucker and t'pol in season 1, blue lit for sterility.

Crew Lounge/Mess

Screencap
http://i53.tinypic.com/117uuts.jpg

A relatively small, low-ceilinged area with a proper kitchen/bar and a handful of small viewports, as shown in the picture. There were no replicators on the enterprise, at least at first, so including the kitchen area is a must. Would also be nice if all of the chairs worked, as on the new TOS interior.

Engineering Deck Corridors

Corridor Example
http://i53.tinypic.com/jzdxc.jpg

On the lower/engineering decks the corridors are better lit, show more bare steel, and are wider than the standard corridors - most likely for moving cargo and other bulk items through the bowels of the ship.

The Armory

Render from voyager: elite force mod
http://i54.tinypic.com/eg1qut.jpg

Screencap 1
http://i52.tinypic.com/5vaa00.jpg

Screencap 2
http://i56.tinypic.com/aca353.jpg

The armory, or torpedo room, at the front of the lower decks - with the two notable torpedo loading tubes and the torpedo storage racks off to the sides. While none of the current interiors have a similar room, I think it should definitely be put in the nx-01 interior, it was a key part of the ship in the show. Could replace the engineering lab/office, since I dont believe the nx01 had one.

Transporter Room

Screencap 1
http://i56.tinypic.com/3508650.jpg

screencap 2
http://i52.tinypic.com/fns9ix.jpg

The nx-01's transporter room only had a single transporter pad, designed for cargo rather than personnel

Main Engineering/Warp Core

render from voyager: elite force mod
http://i52.tinypic.com/2s7gtgh.jpg

screencap
http://i56.tinypic.com/wvv19d.jpg

Another room that really sets the interior apart from current designs, the Nx01 had a horizontal warp core, rather than a vertical core (much like the klingon interiors we have in the game already, which use a horizontal core - albeit a much, much larger one). Personally I always thought the horizontal core looked better and made more sense - no working against gravity and easier to work on/maintain.



Since we dont actually have the full interiors or access to all decks in the game, I'd split it up like so:

Bridge
-Bridge
-Ready Room/Briefing Room

Crew Deck
-Sickbay
-Crew Lounge
-Captain's Quarters
-Captain's Dining Room

Engineering Deck
-Armory
-Transporter Room
-Main Engineering


Other areas I think should be included (if possible) but didnt have much info or pictures on:
-The shuttlebay
-Airlocks
-Jeffries tubes
-The brig
-Cargo bay
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 2
03-26-2011, 10:17 AM
While I would love this, there's something to consider, out of the whole, not a lot of people like Enterprise. While I have no doubt that the interiors would be amazing, I don't know if they would have enough of a consumer base to make it worth creating.

(But please, don't mind me, make it make it make it!)
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 3
03-26-2011, 12:14 PM
I would love this, I actualy got myself the entire series recently and have grown to love it.

Beside the interior realy had an militaiy feeling to it not the luxerous civilian feel we have these days.

It is not that bad once you set aside some things, at least I can enjoy it unlike the new star trek movie which is pure and utter *fill in lots of stuff that mods would censor*.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 4
03-26-2011, 12:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liandras
I would love this, I actualy got myself the entire series recently and have grown to love it.

Beside the interior realy had an militaiy feeling to it not the luxerous civilian feel we have these days.

It is not that bad once you set aside some things, at least I can enjoy it unlike the new star trek movie which is pure and utter *fill in lots of stuff that mods would censor*.
I would love it if eventually it gets added in game and I also agree that the devs need to step up there game
Now as the quality of the TOS interior is superb. However, I still think that first they need to revamp the exsisting ones first to the same standards of the TOS interior, and then move on to other eras and so on.(and to be honest I think the next interiors should be ones from TNG.)
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
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# 5
03-26-2011, 02:17 PM
I kinda doubt they'll ever 'revamp' the current interiors. Unless it's something they can put on the cstore and get more money for, the company has little incentive to actually put in the effort.

That's become a pretty big problem with this game - cryptic has completely relegated themselves to only making new content and only content that is going to make them extra cash, while completely ignoring any of the game's older issues that hold no profit opportunities.

Such is the fall of every MMO, when the developers decide that if it doesnt make money it isnt worth doing.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 6
03-26-2011, 05:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Telbasta
I kinda doubt they'll ever 'revamp' the current interiors. Unless it's something they can put on the cstore and get more money for, the company has little incentive to actually put in the effort.

That's become a pretty big problem with this game - cryptic has completely relegated themselves to only making new content and only content that is going to make them extra cash, while completely ignoring any of the game's older issues that hold no profit opportunities.

Such is the fall of every MMO, when the developers decide that if it doesnt make money it isnt worth doing.
You forget all the free content that is coming with Season 4 for free.

Ground Combart v2.0
Klingon PvE tuturial and lots of Klingon only PvE missions
new free Feature Series 4 etc.

Just take a look at the Dev tracker or even the Engineering reports.

Sorry. Slightly off-topic.

On topic now.

Next Interiors should be Galaxy-class and Sovereign-class in my opinion.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 7
03-26-2011, 05:19 PM
I think that interiors from all the shows would be a good idea, but I think they probably should (and will) focus on the more popular shows first, which means they should (and hopefully will) start with TOS and TNG series + movies and work their way down.

I personally would love a TNG series bridgepack, complete with every set ever seen on the show, or at least the main ones.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 8
03-26-2011, 05:20 PM
Quote:
You forget all the free content that is coming with Season 4 for free.
No, it isnt "for free", that's where our 15$ monthly fee is going.

Everything we get in this game we're paying for. The monthly fee goes to the little updates and bug fixes, the cstore payments go towards any new, large additions to the game.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 9
03-26-2011, 05:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Telbasta
No, it isnt "for free", that's where our 15$ monthly fee is going.
Do you have to go to the store to buy season 4? No, you don't. It is a free update to the game.

Perhaps I look at it from a different point of view being a Lifetime member. I should have thought of that.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 10
03-26-2011, 09:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bracknell
Do you have to go to the store to buy season 4? No, you don't. It is a free update to the game.

Perhaps I look at it from a different point of view being a Lifetime member. I should have thought of that.
Go buy something on Ebay and tell me it's free =P

If you pay for it, it isnt free. Your lifetime subscription is still payment, even if you arent paying monthly anymore - you just end up getting a long term discount (think of it as buying in bulk).

We get a few weekly episodes every once in a while, and the occasional (quarterly, it seems like) patch to fix issues that people have been complaining about for a year now. Outside of those updates, pretty much everything 'new' to the game is going through the cstore, because that means the devs are not only getting that monthly payment, they're also getting a bonus on top of it - double dipping, if you will.

I realize everything needs to be paid for, but every MMO and every game company eventually gets to a point where the money is more important than the product, and at that point things just go downhill.

Anyways, that's all getting off topic. NX-01 bridges and interiors, please =P
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