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# 1 Unbalanced
05-06-2011, 09:42 PM
Until feds are given a carrier class vessel that can launch drones of their own... going against KDF in a 5v5 fight where there's two carriers for KDF.. that can launch four drones each, thats bringing another 8 KDF ships to a 5v5 fight. You may not think its much but it adds up in relation to dps.

Thats what drives the already few of us FED players that do pvp further and further into the PVE game and leaving pvp alone. Just today I was told that about 10 or 20 percent of all players are pvpers.. with probably the majority being KDF because of the weaksauce fed ships.

Its just soooo unbalanced. It really ruins the aspect of pvp.
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# 2
05-06-2011, 09:45 PM
Fire At Will called, wanted to let you know that Carriers are garbage now.
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# 3
05-06-2011, 09:49 PM
Let the KDF keep their originality!

Damn. Next you'll be wanting Bird of prey's as well.
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# 4
05-06-2011, 09:57 PM
Facepalm

Attn all Klingons you have OP ships.
Honestly when the heck did that happen.

Is it the overpowered escort that can split into 3 ships that all have more hull then a BOP?

Is it the sci ship that doesn't turn like a winnebago.. and has an invincible mode?

Is it the Sci Ship that has engi hull heals... and the power to negate cloak. (if used right)

Is it the cruiser that can load tier 3 tac skills ?

No its the fat boy ship with sci weapons but not shields anymore (they where nerfed you see) turns like a winnebago with a flat fire or two, but wait it can launch fighters, that pretty much evaporate before they get .5k away from the ship if one Faw boat is present.

OP I hate to break it too you man... Klink ships BLOW... Fed ships Don't. We barely even play our klinks anymore... can't even remember the last time we fielded a 5 man klink team... our fed ships >
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# 5
05-06-2011, 09:58 PM
Geeez! Cryptic broke Fire at Will to be OP and still there are whiners.
RIght now these pets are just spam and your answer to spam in give the Federation more spam?
Seriously?
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# 6
05-06-2011, 10:06 PM
Invincible mode.. if only that were true.. many times I clipped into Albative Armor just to be shredded by the KDF pvpers AND their damn drones...

When my shields are powered up and taking hits, I put up more shields and what happens they melt like butter.. so don't tell me that KDF isn't OP.. because they are.. I've played it through on my KDF alt and I see the difference.. ITS THERE!!!

As to the KDF carriers.. if their crap, then how is it that they just simply don't die when there's five fed players firing on it at the same time... At least two of which are Assault Cruisers and an escort, a sci vessel and star cruiser.. nothing dropped its shields below half.. so yeah.. THEIR OP for damn sure...

Give the FEDS carriers and see if that doesn't balance out the issue.
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# 7
05-06-2011, 10:09 PM
Ok. Here is what I want you to do. Add me as a friend. I'll teach you how to take down a carrier with a team.
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# 8
05-06-2011, 10:41 PM
To the PVP community. I was in this match against the original poster. It was me in a FAW'licious cruiser and one of my fleetmates, Four, in his voquv.

The two of us weren't killed by a group of 4-5 fed ships because of these skills:
TSS
Hazards
Aux to SIF / Eng Team 2-3
Extend Shields

We took them out or they ran because they weren't supporting or cross healing each other. Minimal teamwork at best.

I am here to tell you that yes, TSS, Haz Emits, A2SIF, ET, and ExT are OP and need to be nerfed. Klingons should NOT have them, only feds.

As a side note, OP, you might want to get a few pointers from the seasoned veterans here. You'll learn a thing or two because most of us actually play PuG or premade in both sides.
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# 9
05-06-2011, 10:54 PM
Please... I've played the game since early launch...

When you have five fed players that just come together out of the draw for the purpose of pvp that go against KDF players that either as a premade group or not, the odds are stacked in the favor of KDF.

You can argue all you want that they aren't but really they are.. Launching all those drones vs on top of the original five KDF ships which I have no doubt are armored up to the gills with engineering stuff.. and I don't blame that.. hell I would too, but the DPS put out by the KDF vs that of just five fed ships just can't not be compared. Five KDF ships.. plus Drones, against five Fed players.. there's no chance of winning for the feds really.

Call it what you want... qq or whatever your staple of words can hold.. thats the fact. If both factions can load up on the same weapons cross board, then give both factions the same style of ship class. Currently both feds and KDF have cruisers, assault ships, heavy cruisers sci ships or similar with the exception of Carrier Class vessels. Give us the Carrier Class vessels with drones and see where the QQ comes from then.
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# 10
05-06-2011, 10:56 PM
I will give the OP this most KDF ships are specced and geared towards PvP. Right now most fed ships have adequate PvE builds that short bus worthy in PvP. It isn't the KDF ships it is the fed capts, I mean most like most of the team.
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