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# 21
05-17-2011, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kaighless
Look out everyone! Some of you out there have decided to take action against signatures that over 5 lines long *gasp*
I with you. Forum Police Must Die!

I have half the people who posted in this thread on ignore. Guess which ones



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# 22
05-17-2011, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HappyHappyJoyJoy View Post
Discussing moderator or GM actions is against the rules.

I'd recommend editing this thread down to nothing to avoid any repercussions.
Discussing Moderator or GM actions is against the rules.

Discussing NORMAL, UNPRIVILEDGED FORUM MEMBERS stupid behaviours is not, as long as you don't fall in the temptation of trolling or flamebaiting.

Issuing a general reminder of a particular issue that may or may not bring consequences to your account is also NOT against the rules.

And I agree that some people around here, and I'm NOT pointing fingers to anyone, can only be described as mental cases that should seek professional help. And this comment wasn't intended as insult, but as serious advice. They should turn their computers off and set an appointment with the appropriate specialist before logging in again.

When you have to carefully measure every word you write for fear of facing disciplinary consequences, you can be sure you are in a Police State. I know what I'm talking about. I was born in one.
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# 23
05-17-2011, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kaighless
Chat, you clearly know everything, so this thread isn't directed at you. It's aimed at people that didn't know. Your comments really don't help. Thanks
Of course I know everything. But I doubt anyone would find the knowledge of not storing apples with onions to be useful...



And my post wasn't really directed at you either. :p
Point is that even when people know that discussing this is against the rules they still make them.
I mean back then when it wasn't enforced that heavily and some got hit by the edit hammer they went right back to their old sigs like nothing happened.

So it wasn't that I do not care. (Sig violations gets more of a "roll the eyes" reaction than anything. Because it is a rather easy mistake to make. Just... How to say... You should know that making threads like this was in violation.

Here in this thread there are further violations. Most glaring one is the one that wants people who wants people dead which is rather... Didn't Martin Luther King say something about that? :p
Will I report them? Eh... Why should I? Maybe if he lived in the apartment under me but then I'll simply wear my boots with 5cm soles and tap dance my way to victory.
So no report from me. Was just a tongue in cheek reply. Maybe I missed a smiley there or something.


Probably not making much sense. Just got back from a course and my goodness do I feel relaxed in my brain. Body massage and soothing music and good food. *looks up* I wrote all that? Well to late now. Marking and deleting everything takes more effort than hitting Submit Reply.


But in short. Sig violations, discussions of moderations. Both are in violations.
But tbh your post is more of advice. But do remember my brain is goo right now.

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Be nice to Chat! She's here to help, not hinder. She's also one of the more valued members of this place in my opinion.
I'm still not gonna give my recipe for healthy muffins. NEVER!
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# 24
05-17-2011, 05:47 AM
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I'm still not gonna give my recipe for healthy muffins. NEVER!
Oh, come on.....
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# 25
05-17-2011, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Chat
But in short. Sig violations, discussions of moderations. Both are in violations.
But tbh your post is more of advice. But do remember my brain is goo right now.
I'd like be adamantly clear here. Discussion of SPECIFIC moderation actions is against the rules. No "I made this, got an infraction" or "Mod X said this and Mod Y said that". That is against the rules.

Discussion of GENERAL moderation policy AND the moderation rules themselves is NOT against the rules. But I'm not sure where such discussion should be held. Possibly in one of the feedback forums. The idea is giving feedback on moderation, not mod bashing or rule bashing. Bashing is not constructive and is pointless.

If something is not working as intended, it MUST be discussed. I've seen too many examples of using these kinds of rules to "sweep under the carpet" arbitrary actions and obvious moderator errors. As in these forums I'm not aware of this happening, I'm assuming the mods here are doing a good job. So, I'm not talking about a specific mod or even the whole mod team in this forum.

And these kinds of discussions WILL take place. From my Internet experience, if the mods curtail such discussions with an iron fist, instead of allowing them, but keeping an eye on what's being said, and acting if the discussion really gets out of hand, then, some player, tired of getting infractions, will create a forum somewhere else, where the mods don't have any power, and the discussions will be not just about generic situations, but specific, may be up to the point of quoting private correspondence.

So, those comments and threads will happen, the choice is if that they are allowed here with some semblance of control, or outside, and have a RP disaster with no chance of being controlled.

My experience with MMORPGs is limited, but I'm a veteran of countless Internet forums. I've been mod in a couple, and assistant in a lot more and I've seen it happen. So heed my advice.

Also, "Forum police" refers to forum members that are NOT mods, but that tend to abuse the report mechanism. Talking about that kind of people with no griefing, trolling or flamebaiting is NOT against the rules, no matter how you look at it.

Edit: I'd suggest changing the thread's title to something less... provocative.
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# 26
05-17-2011, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth-Thanatos View Post
I'd like be adamantly clear here. Discussion of SPECIFIC moderation actions is against the rules. No "I made this, got an infraction" or "Mod X said this and Mod Y said that". That is against the rules.

Discussion of GENERAL moderation policy AND the moderation rules themselves is NOT against the rules. But I'm not sure where such discussion should be held. Possibly in one of the feedback forums. The idea is giving feedback on moderation, not mod bashing or rule bashing. Bashing is not constructive and is pointless.
But why risk it?
Both types can be seen as the same in the eye of a mod.


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And these kinds of discussions WILL take place. From my Internet experience, if the mods curtail such discussions with an iron fist, instead of allowing them, but keeping an eye on what's being said, and acting if the discussion really gets out of hand, then, some player, tired of getting infractions, will create a forum somewhere else, where the mods don't have any power, and the discussions will be not just about generic situations, but specific, may be up to the point of quoting private correspondence.
That one has been done a few times now since the revised rules.
I remember one forum like that in another game that was so hostile to the verge of destruction. It had been made just for that. Mod bashing. (it did not really have many members)
If one can discuss the subject without hostility then I see no problem in it. Rules however does not see this.


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So, those comments and threads will happen, the choice is if that they are allowed here with some semblance of control, or outside, and have a RP disaster with no chance of being controlled.

My experience with MMORPGs is limited, but I'm a veteran of countless Internet forums. I've been mod in a couple, and assistant in a lot more and I've seen it happen. So heed my advice.
Mod here as well in a few forums.(yes... People actually give me that kind of power :p)
And there can be abuse on both sides. (not saying I did... Because I did ask for permission from the big man if I could relentlessly mock people when I made my edits. *whistles innocently*)

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Originally Posted by Darth-Thanatos View Post
Also, "Forum police" refers to forum members that are NOT mods, but that tend to abuse the report mechanism. Talking about that kind of people with no griefing, trolling or flamebaiting is NOT against the rules, no matter how you look at it.
Totally. I generally can't be bothered to report unless its a obvious violation. Because if I'm unsure then it just might be harmless, no?
My first post was about it. Even if it was in a shroud of mystery.
People will always push the rules. Always. In CO we got a wave of censored avatars and signatures because of it.

But wishing people dead over it is really a violation.



And ugh... I should go back and edit my previous post. Or I could take another cup of tea and pretend I never made it.
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# 27
05-17-2011, 07:02 AM
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Just like Happy said. Spitting in the face of Communism is not tolerated.
But it sure is fun!!!
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# 28
05-17-2011, 07:03 AM
*fires shotgun at the thread*

take that commies.
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# 29
05-17-2011, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth-Thanatos View Post
I'd like be adamantly clear here. Discussion of SPECIFIC moderation actions is against the rules. No "I made this, got an infraction" or "Mod X said this and Mod Y said that". That is against the rules.

Discussion of GENERAL moderation policy AND the moderation rules themselves is NOT against the rules. But I'm not sure where such discussion should be held. Possibly in one of the feedback forums. The idea is giving feedback on moderation, not mod bashing or rule bashing. Bashing is not constructive and is pointless.
Actually,if you read the rules.....everything can be against the rules.That's the nature of blanket rules....
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# 30
05-17-2011, 07:13 AM
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Apricots, feta and mixed nuts in mine.
Now the batter... Oh boy thats the tricky part.
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