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# 71
06-16-2011, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
the defiant is a extremely powerful ship, FOR ITS SIZE. it may be slightly more powerful then an 80 year old medium cruiser, but something as big, modern and well armed as an akira? oh hell no. its large phaser arrays alone could hit 3 or 4 times harder then anything an excelsior class could ever muster, it wouldn't need any of those torpedoes to out gun it.
It's actually very simple. The Defiant is a "signature ship". It was featured as the main ship on a Star Trek series, and thus is popular. It was also seen to win a lot of battles, which it did primarily by playing on the strengths of the Escort -- high speed, extreme firepower in the forward arc, and the ability to take the initiative. The Akira, while a powerful warship, is slower, and has a more even distribution of weapon arcs.

The Prometheus and Dervish, the successors of the Defiant, are both closer to the size of the Akira. They aren't quite as big as the Akira, but they ARE more manueverable. And since the devs reduced the size of the Akira a bit from canon, the Prometheus turns out to be a little longer, although it probably has slightly less volume. Since both are newer than the Akira, likely either would have the advantage against it.

On other words, it is not the Akira that is out of place, it's the Defiant. And that can be explained as the Defiant being an extreme specialist, with no systems that don't conform to its strict role as an Escort. The Akira and other larger ships have room for more non-essential systems like crew quarters and recreation, giving them more range and service life. The Akira and Dervish are hybrids, having hull strength and engineering systems more like a Cruiser, while the Prometheus has the advanced technology and processing power of a Science ship.

If you look at the Tier system as not a ranking of power, but of desirability, as in this is what a captain will progress through as he rises up the ranks of Star Fleet, then it makes sense. But of course, that doesn't work because the Tier system IS a ranking of power, and so the low Tier ships end up weaker and useless to the higher ranks, while they were depicted in the canon as comparable in power.

I will add that since the Defiant in canon is an "escort", and the Akira in canon is a "cruiser", that it was perfectly logical for two "escorts" to flank a "cruiser", since, you know, it is the job of escorts to escort. In game terms, the Akira (presumably a T5 variant, although it might just be that the Defiants were T4) took the tanking role, since it was the bigger and better defended of the three, even though all three were technically classified as Escorts. Normally in game such a role would be filled by a Dervish instead, but that's exactly what this thread is talking about.
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# 72
06-16-2011, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Blayyde
I will add that since the Defiant in canon is an "escort", and the Akira in canon is a "cruiser", that it was perfectly logical for two "escorts" to flank a "cruiser", since, you know, it is the job of escorts to escort. In game terms, the Akira (presumably a T5 variant, although it might just be that the Defiants were T4) took the tanking role, since it was the bigger and better defended of the three, even though all three were technically classified as Escorts. Normally in game such a role would be filled by a Dervish instead, but that's exactly what this thread is talking about.
Pretty much this. That's why I gave the Akira a LtC engineering slot, similar to how the Excelsior got a LtC Tactical, or the Prometheus got a LtC Science, etc. It allows the Akira to tank better than other escorts (especially when flown by an Engineer), while still letting it be classed as an escort (as a torpedo boat).
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# 73
07-03-2011, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexraptor View Post
On the note of the Nova, it is not T5 material, it is a ship that is inferior to even a Klingon Bird of Prey canonicly, it is the Oberth of the 24th century.
The game contemporary version of the Nova takes on 2 Negh'Vars. And it would be perfect to be the tactically enhanced science eqivalent to the excelsior.
A science ship with tactical traits (LC tac station/ high turn rate due to it's size).
Money here waiting to get it off the C-Store.
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