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# 1 Cloaked Ambushes
06-08-2011, 04:40 PM
How does everyone feel about cloaked ambushes with the Defiants, Raptors and BoPs?


Easy way to get kills or a necessity in PvP?
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# 2
06-08-2011, 04:42 PM
Only the weak don't recover.

Did you get ambushed Azurian ?
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# 3
06-08-2011, 04:52 PM
Yeah..........

But this honestly isn't a "rant", but it basically jarred an old sentiment of how easy cloaked ambushes can be at times. Anyone in a cloaked escort can do it, even fairly well. And I always thought that Cryptic should follow canon in where you have no weapon power when you're cloaked.

So am I wrong or not?
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# 4
06-08-2011, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Azurian View Post
How does everyone feel about cloaked ambushes with the Defiants, Raptors and BoPs?

Easy way to get kills or a necessity in PvP?
Neither easy nor a necessity.

It is only easy against semi-stationary targets without EPtS/other shield resists. And cloaked ambushes are certainly not a necessity in PVP.
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# 5
06-08-2011, 05:40 PM
i loved when i used to ambush with mask energy signature in my recon science ship. fun times.... may try that out again -ponders the good old days-
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# 6
06-08-2011, 05:40 PM
Also, it is quite possible to anticipate, and thus prepare for, an ambush from either Federation or Klingon cloaked ships. There are a number of ways to detect an opponent through stealth as well as to impair their ability to cloak.

Too often the victims of a cloaked ambush respond like sheep or gazelle, when instead they should respond like cornered African Honey Badgers.

Be the Badger, my friend.
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# 7
06-08-2011, 05:52 PM
There should be more BOP (kdf) and escorts in the game.
At the moment, cloak isn't working and FAW is bugged so you don't see many.

I have never seen a game with so few 'dpsers' as in this game.
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# 8
06-08-2011, 06:23 PM
1 TacTeam turns my 16,000 shield facings into 64,000. Alpha'ing through that is hard

But in all seriousness, 1 TacTeam is all it takes to survive an Alpha. Often times, your Borg procs will kick in and help you out. And you can even hear your opponent buffing up a good portion of the times before you get hit.

It's the 2+ cloaker gank you need to watch out for.
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# 9
06-08-2011, 07:17 PM
Really? Can I just shoot pillows? 10 hour cruiser vs cruiser matches are just soo much fun :p
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# 10
06-08-2011, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mvs5191 View Post
1 TacTeam turns my 16,000 shield facings into 64,000. Alpha'ing through that is hard

But in all seriousness, 1 TacTeam is all it takes to survive an Alpha. Often times, your Borg procs will kick in and help you out. And you can even hear your opponent buffing up a good portion of the times before you get hit.

It's the 2+ cloaker gank you need to watch out for.
A cloaked ambush + PSW stun is still a killer. Especially if SNB is thrown in there somewhere.

I get caught by the cloaked ambush occasionally, particularly when I'm using ships or captains that I don't have much experience with. But I think it's fine as part of the game. I can occasionally manage a "one-shot" with my Tac/Defiant, but not often. Not everyone can do it, so it's fine IMO.

It takes certain ship and captain builds to pull off an effective ambush, as well as good timing and near perfect positioning. If any part of that fails, then the ambusher is stuck in a close range tank and healing contest, which their ship probably isn't built for.

It kind of upsets me when I get stunned and have a hole burned through my shields before I can react in any way. But if the fight doesn't got that way then I'm likely to win, despite how horrible I am, so it balances out.
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