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# 71
06-09-2011, 10:10 AM
Aesthetically speaking very retro look and feel to it and some may like that. I would like to see something that is a progression or similar to the current design as a skin or other ship in general. I have been working on a couple of designs, mostly by pencil. I have Heavy rapto along the lines of Qin and a MVAM type ship with I think innovative twist on MVAM BOFF layout. A little teaser, KDF MVAM answer think BoP/Raptor union.
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# 72
06-09-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mister_dee
Would any self respecting Raptor pilot fly this thing?
I would fly it, but then I'm a new "toy" fanatic. I think a Cruiser/Raptor hybrid would do a Tac toon some good.
Unfortunately the Warcry article does not let me see the picture on this PC, besides I like yours better.
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# 73
06-09-2011, 10:10 AM
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No BC for any ship that isnt a BOP.
That's my thought exactly, and many other people feel this way apparently from reading this and other similar threads..
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# 74
06-09-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LittleTerribleRomulan
What would you be sacrificing for this BC?
Either an Engineering console or the ensign tac slot. Or both, both would be a good offset.
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# 75
06-09-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Alastor_Forthright View Post
Either an Engineering console or the ensign tac slot. Or both, both would be a good offset.
No thank you. Again no BC. I don't get what everyone's obssession is with having BC. On Fed side many want the Def-R to have BC in trade for a console slot. BC is kewl, but not that kewl.... it just costs too much. Just look at the BOP shields and hull. U want BC get a BOP.
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# 76
06-09-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jnoh
The Escorts offer some suggestions for how to add a new Raptor type:
  • The Advanced with it's Science-heavy buildout is my preferred Blueside PvE ship, particularly now that they added the multi-vector console to the game (can be applied to both the base Advanced and the new Multi-Vector). I'm quite happy with the results of swapping the Ensign slot to a Sci.
  • A Fleet's added survivability is also quite attractive, though not as much imho. Changing the Ensign and keeping the console layout favoring Engineering is an effective build to be sure.
  • Personally, I'd love a hybrid, where the Ensign slot becomes Science, and we retain the 3 Engineering consoles.
I'd LOVE to see a variant with 1 Universal console slot (so 2 Eng, 2 Sci, 4 Tac, 1 Universal) and 1 universal Ensign slot to let us be a bit more creative. At LEAST make the Ensign slot a Universal one on the Qin itself, and any other future variants, but maybe that's just me.

Barring the application of universals, I'd prefer an Advanced equivalent.



I'd also love to see the way they handled the multi-vector console come to Klingons as a Universal Battle Cloak console for both BoPs and Raptors, but to be fair I spend most of my time uncloaked because I'm fighting, not because I cant cloak.
An added Universal console would make the ship more deadly but less survivable. I would see most people running the uni as a third eng console which is what the current VA raptor is specced at. BC is would serve a purpose but I think it would only get used sometimes so really wouldn't be much of a net gain for the raptor. I feel the raptor falls between the Defiant and Fleet but seems to turn worse than the both of them.
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# 77
06-09-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Data
An added Universal console would make the ship more deadly but less survivable. I would see most people running the uni as a third eng console which is what the current VA raptor is specced at. BC is would serve a purpose but I think it would only get used sometimes so really wouldn't be much of a net gain for the raptor. I feel the raptor falls between the Defiant and Fleet but seems to turn worse than the both of them.
Aye, that seems to be the case there...
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# 78
06-09-2011, 10:10 AM
If the Qin turned better or had a LTC:engineer BOff slot I would be happy.
Heck if it just turned a fuzz better I would be happy.
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# 79
06-09-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
If the Qin turned better or had a LTC:engineer BOff slot I would be happy.
Heck if it just turned a fuzz better I would be happy.
Here here.


Good to see you back roach.
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# 80
06-09-2011, 10:10 AM
Thanks. Glad to be back.
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