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# 11
06-09-2011, 11:28 AM
Really depends on your style. I myself use the Aegis Covariants. Coupled with all my buffs and well...hard to punch through them. Granted if you want the full bonus of the Breen set you'll have to use them.
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# 12
06-09-2011, 11:28 AM
Breen Shields are Resilient shields which means they negate 50% of all bleedthrough damage.

Covariant shields are for withstanding powerful, burst attacks.

Resilient shields are better at fighting off constant, medium strength damage provided you have the ability to throw a few shield resists on it like TSS or EPtS.
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# 13
06-09-2011, 11:28 AM
Thanks. I must've missed it but what is the bonus for collecting all three breen equipment? I have always used high hp shields. Not sure why. But I have several shield regen abilities so it seemed the right thing to do.
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# 14
06-09-2011, 11:28 AM
The 3 piece (full set) bonus for the AZ (absolute zero) Set is a free Energy Siphon 1 skill which is a Lt Science power.

The 2 piece partial set bonus is +30 to transphasic projectiles and +30% to EPS transfer rate.
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# 15
06-09-2011, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by opzulu View Post
no no no no no no no. and no. The faster shot is BAD. its a horrible joke. AND the torps are not part of the set. as it almost sounds like you think it is, im not sure if you do, but it kinda sounds that way.
I know it's not. But you get a bonus to transphaic torps. If I'm not mistaken the refire rate on transphaics are 10 seconds. Transphasic never had great damage to begin with which is why I prefer an increased fire rate.

Personally, I don't like transphasics to begin with. Between the damage and bleed through bonus it's just not worth it, I prefer a more potent punch when hitting exposed hull and with my science ship I have no issues burning through shields. But if you're going to use the breen set you might as well take the bonus to transphasic damage and run with it.

All things considered, though, play with it for a week or so, then go back to the Aegis or Borg set or whatever combo people prefer to use. It's a fun distraction but I don't see it being of much use until transphasic torpedoes get a boost of some sort.
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# 16
06-09-2011, 11:28 AM
if you like the bonus to transphasics use the high end crafted one NOT the rapdi fire torp...its worthless unless they fix them, well they want to fix all transphasics, but it would need more love, and thats what my post was about, not just that I thought you ment the rapid fire torp was part of the set.....
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# 17
06-09-2011, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by staalker View Post
Everyone can be down on transpahsic's now...but when they make the changes to weapon types...
This^^
I've been playing with my Intrepid build lately, which uses extremely low weapon power. I run a transphasic fore and aft and a tricobalt in front, and use shield draining abilities. If I'm teamed up with an escort, I can pretty much own face as they are now, but when they boost transphasics I'll be able to punch through shields very well.

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Originally Posted by Marctraider View Post
Resilient can take less burst damage, but you can stay alive in battle for a longer duration.
I have had the Cap x3 covariant with the cap +35% console on my escort, even then occasionally someone pwned through my shield and hull if you cannot act fast enough
This is precisely the reason I sprung for the Resilient Cap x3 array from K7 for my sci vessel. I used to use the covariant cap x3 and found that bleedthrough would get me about half the time. This is because sci vessels have the most fragile hulls, and can crumble quite easily just from that 10% damage if they're being focus fired by a full team. Having switched to the resilient, I survive about twice as long. Granted, I went from about 14k shields to 11k, but considering one shot from an escort does about 2k damage, that extra doesn't matter at all if I have shield buffs running.

I would NOT put a resilient array on a cruiser or an escort, I'd much rather run the borg set or the Aegis set. But on a science vessel, I wouldn't run anything else.
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# 18
06-09-2011, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Raso
With the rapid fire transphasic torpedo, the breen set isn't an entirely bad deal. It could be good for an escort that specializes in transphasic torps because you get the boost to energy transfer and a free energy siphon (which can help out more than you think).

That was my thought so I'm trying the Breen deflector and engines with the Reman shield with phasers and transphastics on my Defiant Retrofit Escort. I also added the minepedo front and rear. I' wouldn't use it for PVP but it's fine for PVE.
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# 19
06-09-2011, 11:28 AM
You should be using Mk X Cap x 3 shields. You are in a science ship after all.

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# 20
06-09-2011, 11:28 AM
The borg sensor array isn't any good for a science ship... lets face it, if you don't use the defector skill your probably not playing sci properly.

As boring as it might seem the aegis is the better of the two sets for survivability matched with other skills.

EDIT: I prefer resilient shields, but thats just me...
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