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# 111
06-30-2011, 03:27 AM
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So the feddies get all the good ships? How about take those same specs and make a Klingon ship instead. And then give us a cruiser with a Ltc. Sci. That would balance things out nicely.
i agree, somewhat. with all the different layouts for fed escorts coming out the bop looses some of its value.

they could make some kdf ships with similar layouts (mvam, andorian?) but keep the bop as it is if you want to do something special or get the turn rate/battle cloak.

But ofc.. we have no idea of knowing if this is actually what it will be. But judging from before it seems most likely.


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Judging by their past "hybrid" ships, that seems most likely.

However, someone might whine and moan about EPtS 3/EngTeam 3 (or Extend 2, for you TSI clowns ) might be OP on an Escort and give it LtC Sci again instead... like how the D'Kyr was under consideration for an LtC Tac, but it was passed down from above that that would be OP.
Hmm i dunno.. i see more use in a psw mvam but well.
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# 112
06-30-2011, 03:45 AM
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i agree, somewhat. with all the different layouts for fed escorts coming out the bop looses some of its value.

they could make some kdf ships with similar layouts (mvam, andorian?) but keep the bop as it is if you want to do something special or get the turn rate/battle cloak.

But ofc.. we have no idea of knowing if this is actually what it will be. But judging from before it seems most likely.




Hmm i dunno.. i see more use in a psw mvam but well.
Can i have an escort with unistations+battlecloak (psw and cpb em all)? And can we have cloak cruisers too (not galx nooo not that)? And 2 spamzilla?
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# 113
06-30-2011, 03:51 AM
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Can i have an escort with unistations+battlecloak (psw and cpb em all)? And can we have cloak cruisers too (not galx nooo not that)? And 2 spamzilla?
we all know what u think.

but ye... ship balance is pretty okay as it is i guess.
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# 114
06-30-2011, 03:58 AM
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Can i have an escort with unistations+battlecloak (psw and cpb em all)? And can we have cloak cruisers too (not galx nooo not that)? And 2 spamzilla?
Yes you can, level a klink. Though i doubt YOU would enjoy flying the squishiest (is that even a word?) ship in the game.
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# 115
06-30-2011, 04:13 AM
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Can i have an escort with unistations+battlecloak (psw and cpb em all)? And can we have cloak cruisers too (not galx nooo not that)? And 2 spamzilla?
Now is a good time to say it

"Buff my Raptor."
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# 116
06-30-2011, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Krizonar
Now is a good time to say it

"Buff my Raptor."
+2 Turn Rate and -1 Engineering Console should do it.
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# 117
06-30-2011, 05:08 AM
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+2 Turn Rate and -1 Engineering Console should do it.
I think theres something other than this broken with it. Just carbon copy the defiant R and reskin it with the raptor skin.
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# 118
06-30-2011, 05:39 AM
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i agree, somewhat. with all the different layouts for fed escorts coming out the bop looses some of its value.

they could make some kdf ships with similar layouts (mvam, andorian?) but keep the bop as it is if you want to do something special or get the turn rate/battle cloak.

But ofc.. we have no idea of knowing if this is actually what it will be. But judging from before it seems most likely.
Well, I guess that if the BoP loses that non-sense All-Universal BO layout in favor of a fixed one (maybe the same as the AE- Prometheus [LtC. Sci]), it'll probably gain some of it's HULL back.
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# 119
06-30-2011, 05:55 AM
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Well, I guess that if the BoP loses that non-sense All-Universal BO layout in favor of a fixed one (maybe the same as the AE- Prometheus [LtC. Sci]), it'll probably gain some of it's HULL back.
One idea would be to remove tha full uni bop and add 3 new ones. One leaning towards sci, one engi and one with a full escort type layout. Then boost hull/shields slightly.

But the reason that im not sure abput this is that theres bop setups not in any of these catagories, you know :p
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# 120
06-30-2011, 06:10 AM
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One idea would be to remove tha full uni bop and add 3 new ones. One leaning towards sci, one engi and one with a full escort type layout. Then boost hull/shields slightly.

But the reason that im not sure abput this is that theres bop setups not in any of these catagories, you know :p
That might work too. Still there are things that an ESCORT shouldn't be able to do, and the BoP is quite clearly one.

Adding a real KDF Sci ship that doesn't run on railroads might solve the "Uni-BoP issue" too.
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