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# 21
06-24-2011, 12:43 PM
For both KDF and FED factions it means that instead of being able to do any FE series episde once you reach Level 6; they are going to lock the various FE series to certain level ranges; and a character of lower level won't be able to see or acces them until they are at that level.

There will be a few exceptions:

1) When there is a FE Series 'Replay Weekend/Week, etc.' the series in question will be available to everyone regardless of level.

2) Any new FE series will be available to everyone regardless of level during it's 'first run' timeframe. Once it has concluded that run, it'll be added to the game and assigned a minimum level before it's visible.

Mission replay will still work - ie once you're played an episode, you can always go into your Ready Room and use the Mission Reply terminal to access and replay it.

DStahl made a post detailing that the above was what was going to be done a couple of months ago.
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# 22
06-24-2011, 12:48 PM
Actually, I'm not so sure that selling KDF "Mission Packs" in the C-Store is such a bad idea, to borrow an idea from the F2P games.

It would give KDF players another way to vote with their wallets and would, hopefully, help to fund additional dev resources to work on KDF content -- which players would demonstrate a demand for by paying for some of it. (Not all, just some.)

It would also be EXCLUSIVE content for the KDF, that would leave the Feds jealously wishing THEY had rolled a KDF character. Want to play? No problem! Roll up a Klingon and then spend your points! With the side benefit of encouraging more players to go KDF.

And it would give Cryptic a head start if they ever decided to take STO F2P.

Should you have to pay for content? No! Of course not! You can always choose not to pay for it and grind exploration like any other miserable servant class of the mighty Klingon Empire.

Another, slightly less effective way to vote with your wallet would be to spend all of your game time playing KDF Foundry missions -- thereby demonstrating a demand for extra KDF content while simultaneously demonstrating how inadequate it is for advancement. I assume that the datamining they need to do in order to identify in-game trends would spot that.
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# 23
06-24-2011, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bluegeek View Post
Actually, I'm not so sure that selling KDF "Mission Packs" in the C-Store is such a bad idea, to borrow an idea from the F2P games.

It would give KDF players another way to vote with their wallets and would, hopefully, help to fund additional dev resources to work on KDF content -- which players would demonstrate a demand for by paying for some of it. (Not all, just some.)

It would also be EXCLUSIVE content for the KDF, that would leave the Feds jealously wishing THEY had rolled a KDF character. Want to play? No problem! Roll up a Klingon and then spend your points! With the side benefit of encouraging more players to go KDF.

And it would give Cryptic a head start if they ever decided to take STO F2P.

Should you have to pay for content? No! Of course not! You can always choose not to pay for it and grind exploration like any other miserable servant class of the mighty Klingon Empire.

Another, slightly less effective way to vote with your wallet would be to spend all of your game time playing KDF Foundry missions -- thereby demonstrating a demand for extra KDF content while simultaneously demonstrating how inadequate it is for advancement. I assume that the datamining they need to do in order to identify in-game trends would spot that.
The idea of paying for mission content on a subscription MMO seems, I dunno, dirty?

On the other hand, it's been noticed in previous posts that for Klingon content to be an effective draw for other and new players, it needs to hit a critical mass that congeals into a near full game experience. The 6 missions they added in season 2 didn't come close so they didn't make a real dent in our plummeting population.

This idea might make a good step ladder, providing Cryptic with enough of a profit motive to add content gradually until the amount of content available becomes large enough to sustain a Klingon population. It does mean the 'mission pack' content would all have to be level scaling to both serve as leveling content but also be profitable, the biggest market is always going to be end game players, after all.
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# 24
06-24-2011, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bluegeek View Post
Actually, I'm not so sure that selling KDF "Mission Packs" in the C-Store is such a bad idea, to borrow an idea from the F2P games.

It would give KDF players another way to vote with their wallets and would, hopefully, help to fund additional dev resources to work on KDF content -- which players would demonstrate a demand for by paying for some of it. (Not all, just some.)

It would also be EXCLUSIVE content for the KDF, that would leave the Feds jealously wishing THEY had rolled a KDF character. Want to play? No problem! Roll up a Klingon and then spend your points! With the side benefit of encouraging more players to go KDF.

And it would give Cryptic a head start if they ever decided to take STO F2P.

Should you have to pay for content? No! Of course not! You can always choose not to pay for it and grind exploration like any other miserable servant class of the mighty Klingon Empire.

Another, slightly less effective way to vote with your wallet would be to spend all of your game time playing KDF Foundry missions -- thereby demonstrating a demand for extra KDF content while simultaneously demonstrating how inadequate it is for advancement. I assume that the datamining they need to do in order to identify in-game trends would spot that.
The Klingons would have blood running in the streets..err...halls of Cryptic and rightfully so. Just a few threads away I'm supporting charging for Romulan content but Klingons have every right to expect there to be enough content in the game for them to level; they are one of the games original factions. That having been said they are likely to get a lot of faction neutral content but they shouldn't have to pay extra for it.
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# 25
06-29-2011, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiaran
The Klingons would have blood running in the streets..err...halls of Cryptic and rightfully so. Just a few threads away I'm supporting charging for Romulan content but Klingons have every right to expect there to be enough content in the game for them to level; they are one of the games original factions. That having been said they are likely to get a lot of faction neutral content but they shouldn't have to pay extra for it.
The idea is not to force KDF players to pay for all of their new content. I'd be against that, too.

The idea is to give KDF players an option to prove out a demand for extra KDF-specific content that justifies additional dev funding and dev time.

After some grace period determined by Cryptic, when they have recouped the cost of producing the Mission Pack, they could possibly mainstream those missions into the normal KDF progression and start working on a new Mission Pack if they deem it worthwhile.
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# 26
06-29-2011, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bluegeek View Post
The idea is not to force KDF players to pay for all of their new content. I'd be against that, too.

The idea is to give KDF players an option to prove out a demand for extra KDF-specific content that justifies additional dev funding and dev time.

After some grace period determined by Cryptic, when they have recouped the cost of producing the Mission Pack, they could possibly mainstream those missions into the normal KDF progression and start working on a new Mission Pack if they deem it worthwhile.
I think making one faction pay for what another already has for free would cause a lot of people to say "screw this". I think that sort of thing could prove quite damaging to Cryptic's reputation as well, and this is all aside from being obviously unfair of course. All in all, I'm afraid to say I think it'd backfire horendously.
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# 27
06-30-2011, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ebeneezergoode
I think making one faction pay for what another already has for free would cause a lot of people to say "screw this". I think that sort of thing could prove quite damaging to Cryptic's reputation as well, and this is all aside from being obviously unfair of course. All in all, I'm afraid to say I think it'd backfire horendously.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course. But a lot of other games are charging microtransactions for enhanced content like this and seem to be able to keep generating new content. True, they're mostly if not exclusively F2P games.

Our sub fees are apparently not sufficient to enable the STO devs to dedicate additional development resources to KDF over and above what they are already doing. Paying for Mission Packs would fund specific and focused development to provide mission content faster.

Me, I'm patient. I can wait. I won't even be rolling a new KDF toon until they release the Academy. The content will come, eventually, and there's always the Foundry when I feel like playing something different.
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# 28
06-30-2011, 09:50 PM
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yeah neither am i
Ditto! what topic/thread did your quote come from! please tell! I really want to read that thread lol.
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# 29
06-30-2011, 09:53 PM
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Ditto! what topic/thread did your quote come from! please tell! I really want to read that thread lol.
If you click the yellow & orange arrow in the quote box it will take you there (hint: just scroll up).
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# 30
07-02-2011, 11:27 AM
Hmmmm would it be that hard after opening all sectors to the kdf, rehashing all the fed patrol missions so that klingons can do them?

With any patrol missions that have klingons in them, just change them to fed ships instead. As for the rest they can stay the same as they are now.

That would instantly bring quite a few pve missions to kdf with very little work needed, plus they get added as you level just like the feds get them.
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