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Lt. Commander
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We've all heard about it: Klingons lack a complete PvE leveling path. Unfortunately, the Devs cant address this in a timely manner; its not their fault, they simply dont have the resources. The best thing they can do is make faction neutral missions(Featuerd Episodes), but those have (so far) been far between and many feel they do not really "feel" like Klingon missions.

There isnt any perfect solution to this issue; if there were, I'm sure the Devs would have already done it. But the best solution I have heard(let me emphasize this is not my idea) that is both realistically possible and can be done in a fairly reasonable amount of time is to make use of the community and the Foundry.

A few months ago Stormshade posted a thread asking what were people's favorite Foundry missions. The purpose of this thread was to pick missions for the community spotlight. I say make a new official thread asking people's favorite KDF missions and pick the best of them to actually add to the game as official KDF episodes.

Of course, certain rules will need to be in place; these mission cant use canon characters and cant contradict the existing story of the game. But I honestly think that if Cryptic actually does this the Klingon PvE issue can be resolved by the end of the year. There are some very talented mission authors out there, and in light of this ongoing problem it makes no sense to not to use that talent.

This solution would allow the Devs to continue with their "normal" development plans of improving the game as a whole without having to devote significant time to content that only 1 faction, which currently makes up the minority of the playerbase, can play.

Again; there is no perfect solution to this. But I think this is about the best all around thing that realistically can be done; and something really needs to be done to resolve this issue; both for the spirit of the community and if there is ever going to be any hope of additional factions being added one day.
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# 2
06-18-2011, 09:20 AM
I'm actually so starved for levelling content on the KDF side that the "fed" feel of the featured episodes doesn't bother all that much except for one single mission (It's in the devidian story arc, and all that bugs me about it is that the ONLY rewards are all phaser banks, which don't fit anything I'd ever want as a Klingon).

So while I can understand the criticism that the FE's are all fed slanted ... I desire just plain old missions so much that I'm willing to put up with it.

That said, more foundry interaction, such as what you suggest, is appreciated as well.

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# 3
06-18-2011, 12:26 PM
As noted in another thread, they can't use player-created content as "live" content.

However, the Community spotlight idea could be modified to say those specific Foundry missions would receive standard XP and rewards, while still being Foundry missions.

Include a search filter for community spotlight missions and perhaps it will encourage other players to use the Foundry, even if just for those missions. This would at least give KDF players a PvE option for leveling.
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# 4
06-18-2011, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Lionheart View Post
As noted in another thread, they can't use player-created content as "live" content.
Is there a specific reason for this that they have stated, rather than player speculation?

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However, the Community spotlight idea could be modified to say those specific Foundry missions would receive standard XP and rewards, while still being Foundry missions.

Include a search filter for community spotlight missions and perhaps it will encourage other players to use the Foundry, even if just for those missions. This would at least give KDF players a PvE option for leveling.
If they cant be official, this would certainly be the next best. As long as it solves the actual leveling problem with actual KDF content, then I support it
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# 5
06-18-2011, 12:44 PM
Nagus, I like where you're going with this. We need to get creative with our solutions because honestly new KDF stuff comes down to a money issue. Chances are who ever is running Cryptic is always looking for the most bang for the buck.

Cryptic should just have a foundry contest for KDF missions and the top 3 missions they pick out of the bunch get re-mastered and turned into real missions with real rewards.

Let the community do 1/2 of the work if they are so short on resources. The contest alone would generate a boost in general missions for the KDF and put them in the spotlight so folks who ignore them can play them.

Another idea I had to help boost the KDF population was to have one toon slot be KDF only that didn't count toward your quota of toon slots. So any new account got 3 neutral toon slots and 1 KDF only toon slot.

And then there is my idea for a KDF "bake sale" where a KDF Cstore item has all its funds put toward the development of a KDF specifc feature. We can have a target goal amount and if we raise that much Cryptic promises we get that feature developed.
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# 6
06-18-2011, 12:50 PM
definitely agree with this. there are enough good klingon foundry missions. sadly, the "wrapper" mission, doesn't give enough skill points go be practical imo (as much as i appreciate the effort it took to put it together).
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# 7
06-18-2011, 12:59 PM
I'm not sure how complex the First Contact System was but I can imagine several possible uses for KDF (say one mission generator unlocking every ten levels):
  1. Governance:
    Squash rebellions either through words or combat (plug a series of "concerns" into the same generator but ones that rely on species-specific lists, a KDF rebellion might be that they find themselves more suitable to lead a colony than Qo'nos while Gorn might reference their genocide.
  2. House Conflict:
    Allow players to select a House then have various "House" conflicts: from marriages to assassinations to changes of leadership (might work better with the duty officer system)
  3. Personnel and Supply:
    Allow players to enter micro-missions as they come up: from timed transport protection/raid encounters to freeing prisoners to taking some of your own (maybe melee scenarios or ones with environmental hazards)
The FEDs got the First Contact missions and while they're a little staid, it'd be great to have micro-misisons for KDF that represent a narrower, but more rewarding hybrid between that and existing Exploration tech.

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Originally Posted by pr1983 View Post
definitely agree with this. there are enough good klingon foundry missions. sadly, the "wrapper" mission, doesn't give enough skill points go be practical imo (as much as i appreciate the effort it took to put it together).
I discovered that they added a level-appropriate random item or badge last night.
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# 8
06-18-2011, 01:07 PM
I don't see why they can't use player made quest and turn them into live quest. As long as the creator agrees and doesn't use any names or stories from the movies of shows.

Some of the subscriber quest are good enough to be made into holodeck quest. I say the sooner the better.

To me the Feature Episodes are good but they are Federation quest. It doesn't seem right playing them as my Nausicaan tactical.

When I was did the Defari quest, I got to the part where I was playing doctor. I felt like I should have stabbed them with my D'k tahg and did the heghtay, then gone trough his pockets. The Nausicaan interrogator or drink maker wasn't believable either.
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# 9
06-18-2011, 01:23 PM
If it were me in charge, I'd tackle KDF content like so;
  1. Five faction-agnostic Featured Series missions
  2. One KDF-specific mission
  3. Rinse
  4. Repeat

Faction-neutral content would pile on fast to help take more of the sting out of KDF leveling, KDF-specific content would be churned out regularly. You'd get a new KDF episode every two months, by my estimate. Slow? Hell yes, it's slow. But it's better than the current situation by a long shot, and, at least to this layman, doesn't sound unreasonable.
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# 10
06-18-2011, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The.Grand.Nagus View Post
A few months ago Stormshade posted a thread asking what were people's favorite Foundry missions. The purpose of this thread was to pick missions for the community spotlight. I say make a new official thread asking people's favorite KDF missions and pick the best of them to actually add to the game as official KDF episodes.
To be honest, I thought that was the underlying purpose of the Foundry to begin with. What better way to improve the game and reward the players than to incorporate the best Foundry missions into the official game?

I'd be interested in knowing why Foundry missions can't be "live" content, as well.


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